Inventory of British Military Helicopters
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Roger K - Figures from Observers Book of Aircraft?
No - Defence Correspondent of NON UK Newspaper !!
So who's telling porkies ??
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So who's telling porkies ??
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And how safe are they anyway?
.....and then there is this incident that will also add to the debate of the use of Mi-8 et al...
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-kandahar.html
http://www.pprune.org/military-aircr...-kandahar.html
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No stabilisers for the Puma so can't go in case the wind blows or some big yank bully flys over the top.
Mi-8 or 17? Not a bad idea if you can get over the embarrassment or safety case – ooh is that possible? Fltlt, seem to know a lot?
Mi-8 or 17? Not a bad idea if you can get over the embarrassment or safety case – ooh is that possible? Fltlt, seem to know a lot?
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Enough to say in almost 20 years of ops, only one case of stupidity (Can you say who didn't turn on the fuel transfer pump?). Everybody knocks them, but for what we need right now, go ugly early. Sorry A10 fans. They are archaic machines, designed for austere conditions at best, but when you need simple what else is there? Again, rigorous maintenance/overhaul program is the key. Plus of course real pilots who know how to get the best out of the machine within it's limits. Sorry Larry, for whom the Bell tolls.
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Puma replacement
Hi
I want to ask somethingabout the shortage of helicopters within the British armed forces and it is something we are hearing about for sometime now this is not new.
It can not be helping that the Puma fleet is ageing and must costing a hell of amount of public money to keep them flying and constantly upgrading them.
The puma seems to get the job done and if they are such a good transport helicopter has the MoD ever thought about replacing them with Eurocopter AS532 MK I Cougars I mean they are reliable you can purchase them of the production line and would be cheaper than upgrading 30 yearold airframes that are long well past there sell by date.
These would be far cheaper than purchaseing Merlins or even chinooks
I hope i'm not a long way out but it was just a thought but probably al-ready been thought off.
Would this help the Armed forces in the future?
Any input would be welcome as I'm not that familiar with the military
I want to ask somethingabout the shortage of helicopters within the British armed forces and it is something we are hearing about for sometime now this is not new.
It can not be helping that the Puma fleet is ageing and must costing a hell of amount of public money to keep them flying and constantly upgrading them.
The puma seems to get the job done and if they are such a good transport helicopter has the MoD ever thought about replacing them with Eurocopter AS532 MK I Cougars I mean they are reliable you can purchase them of the production line and would be cheaper than upgrading 30 yearold airframes that are long well past there sell by date.
These would be far cheaper than purchaseing Merlins or even chinooks
I hope i'm not a long way out but it was just a thought but probably al-ready been thought off.
Would this help the Armed forces in the future?
Any input would be welcome as I'm not that familiar with the military
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CBTL?
I make that 11 of the Senior Service's finest and 1 belonging to "Teeny Weeny Airways" (aka Army Air Corps) - the clue is in the camoulage and the skids on the nearest helo (Nerd Alert!
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I make that 11 of the Senior Service's finest and 1 belonging to "Teeny Weeny Airways" (aka Army Air Corps) - the clue is in the camoulage and the skids on the nearest helo (Nerd Alert!
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Every Bootneck I've ever spoken to has been at pains to tell me they have as little to do with the Navy as possible...but I take your point and standby to eat my humble pie!
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Addendum: The Royal Navy, Royal Marines and Royal Fleet Auxilliary form the Naval Service. Therefore, I am correct that they are 11 of the Royal Navy's finest but potentially incorrect if the Lynx is RM and not AAC.
Anyway, I did learn something tonight about the Naval Service
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PS. Still think a bit of humble pie needs to be nibbled!
Anyway, I did learn something tonight about the Naval Service
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PS. Still think a bit of humble pie needs to be nibbled!
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There was a similar story in the Times... really got my back up.
and, actually, what 's the problem.... once you knock off the ones that are unsuitable for use in Afghanistan the figures aren't that bad.
eg 40 Chinooks - 10 in theatre - similar proportion of SK4s, Pumas and Merlin Mk3s that are, were, or are going to be in Afghanistan or Iraq/Kuwait (funny how that doesn't seem to count any more)
After all, the Army needs 5 brigades to maintain one in theatre, the RN uses 4 SSBNs to keep one at sea - against that 10 out of 40 is pretty good isn't it?
and, actually, what 's the problem.... once you knock off the ones that are unsuitable for use in Afghanistan the figures aren't that bad.
eg 40 Chinooks - 10 in theatre - similar proportion of SK4s, Pumas and Merlin Mk3s that are, were, or are going to be in Afghanistan or Iraq/Kuwait (funny how that doesn't seem to count any more)
After all, the Army needs 5 brigades to maintain one in theatre, the RN uses 4 SSBNs to keep one at sea - against that 10 out of 40 is pretty good isn't it?
