French snub the Queen over D-Day 65th
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It may be my paranoia but it seems that HM has been increasingly marginalised by the Noo Labia regime. After Brown's proposed diversionary (or scorched earth, perhaps) move on consitutional "reform", I wouldn't be surprised if she's made yet more detached from govenment. Making the Monarch irrelevant would be a "useful" prelude to creating a republic.
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Holywood has been telling us for decades that America won the second world war single handed looks like the rest of the world including our own 'government' have finally strted to believe them
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except in this particular case I suspect that there is a strong groundswell of public opinion towards the Monarch's attendance in her different roles as Head of State, the Commonwealth and the military - three key functions that the terminally clueless Scottish person doubtless covets.
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Must not forget that Sarkozy and his wife, Brown and to a lesser degree Obama, are all left of centre and are happy to contribute to an occasion that quite openly ignores a monarchy.
What would be much nicer is if the Queen arranged a big 'Do' on the southern shores of England the day before and invited all the people that mattered, WW2 veterans from the USA, Canada, UK, France, indeed all participating countries and as many European 'Royals' who could make it plus lots and lots of military and left the politicians to their own miserable affair in France.
What would be much nicer is if the Queen arranged a big 'Do' on the southern shores of England the day before and invited all the people that mattered, WW2 veterans from the USA, Canada, UK, France, indeed all participating countries and as many European 'Royals' who could make it plus lots and lots of military and left the politicians to their own miserable affair in France.
Referring to the link on the last page
(Obama wants Queen at Normandy commemorations - Beeb)
I would guess that this might get things moving... The Obamas (particularly Mrs) seem rather fond of the Queen - as per the photocall when they visited - and given that the French have said HMQ has always been welcome, this probably means she'll be there. Can't see the PM or No.10 blocking a direct request from POTUS, somehow...
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(Obama wants Queen at Normandy commemorations - Beeb)
I would guess that this might get things moving... The Obamas (particularly Mrs) seem rather fond of the Queen - as per the photocall when they visited - and given that the French have said HMQ has always been welcome, this probably means she'll be there. Can't see the PM or No.10 blocking a direct request from POTUS, somehow...
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'invited all the people that mattered, WW2 veterans from the USA, Canada, UK, France, indeed all participating countries'
So that includes the Germans then?
Get them across to the south coast and they can get an idea of how Op Sealion may have worked out.
So that includes the Germans then?
Get them across to the south coast and they can get an idea of how Op Sealion may have worked out.
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Let's be clear where lies the responsibility for the proper treatment of our Head of State, it is not with other states and governments but with our own. This is the text of a message this SLF sent to No.10 last Friday under the heading "D Day Celebrations"
Mr Brown you, her Prime Minister, are either guilty of the most appalling snub to HMQ by attending in her stead or alternatively a serious diplomatic bungle in not ensuring that she was properly invited. You are consistently incompetent. Please go.
Mr Brown you, her Prime Minister, are either guilty of the most appalling snub to HMQ by attending in her stead or alternatively a serious diplomatic bungle in not ensuring that she was properly invited. You are consistently incompetent. Please go.
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Just been anounced that PoW is to attend. Be interesting to see if President Brown tries to take precidence over Charlie on the day.
Am I correct in saying that Brown said on the Andrew Marr show at the week end that it was a ceremony for "Presidents and Prime Ministers"? If so the guy should hang his miss informed big head in shame. I am aware of no such cermonial event ever taking place. Political events yes. But not State. Next thing is we will all have a port cullis replacing the crown on our cap badges.
Am I correct in saying that Brown said on the Andrew Marr show at the week end that it was a ceremony for "Presidents and Prime Ministers"? If so the guy should hang his miss informed big head in shame. I am aware of no such cermonial event ever taking place. Political events yes. But not State. Next thing is we will all have a port cullis replacing the crown on our cap badges.
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How much more of Brown's unrelenting dullness do we need to witness? This latest surely demonstrates for the last time the sheer folly of a system that allows an unelected Prime Minister to take office. I'm sure that the Queen will make clear her views to the Great Northern Lummox at his weekly meeting with her. He has all the diplomacy one normally associates with a bull in a china shop. If we here can all see what needed to be done - why was it so difficult for him? 
So now PoW has got the job..
Prince of Wales to attend 65th D-Day anniversary - Telegraph
Will GB still be attending?
So now PoW has got the job..
Prince of Wales to attend 65th D-Day anniversary - Telegraph
Will GB still be attending?
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Apparently the Governor-General will attend. As for refreshments there, if the French forget gas for the stove, never fear, she'll eat it anyway.
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"Holywood has been telling us for decades that America won the second world war single handed looks like the rest of the world including our own 'government' have finally strted to believe them"
On a serious point, there is an increasingly obvious absence of true historical knowledge in today's media (be it "modern" or "ancient").
I've lost track of the number of times basic errors have been spoken as historical facts. When one comes to actual interpretation of historical events there is obviously room for disagreement, but most reporters and editors seem to rely on a single "popularist" text and hence often spout rubbish.
When it comes to WW2 the "Hollywood" version is now almost becoming the "real" one.
Pathetic.
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On a serious point, there is an increasingly obvious absence of true historical knowledge in today's media (be it "modern" or "ancient").
I've lost track of the number of times basic errors have been spoken as historical facts. When one comes to actual interpretation of historical events there is obviously room for disagreement, but most reporters and editors seem to rely on a single "popularist" text and hence often spout rubbish.
When it comes to WW2 the "Hollywood" version is now almost becoming the "real" one.
Pathetic.
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No Invitation!!
I have just returned from the south coast of Oz. My friends' town had been infested with a double plague of oysters and prawns and we had to cross the Great Dividing Range with an adequate antidote of Champagne - ooops, we can't say that anymore; sorry "Sparkling White" and Guiness.
After DCO, we were very surprised to see the news.
My Dad arrived off the shores of Normandy early in the morning of June 6th 1944 and he did not have an invitation - mind you, as they say; there were no French around to check if he had.
John B
After DCO, we were very surprised to see the news.
My Dad arrived off the shores of Normandy early in the morning of June 6th 1944 and he did not have an invitation - mind you, as they say; there were no French around to check if he had.
John B
