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Old 6th Jun 2010, 00:37
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Longer Ron wrote

publishing date ??
Keep an eye on the following website.

'Following the completion of a full RAF Board of Inquiry into the causes of a serious military aircraft accident, the Directorate of Air Staff prepares a Military Aircraft Accident Summary (MAAS), which is presented to Parliament.'

Ministry of Defence | About Defence | What we do | Air Safety and Aviation | Military Aircraft Accident Summary (MAAS)

Ministry of Defence | About Defence | Corporate Publications | Air Safety and Aviation Publications | MAAS

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Keep an eye on the following website.

'Following the completion of a full RAF Board of Inquiry into the causes of a serious military aircraft accident, the Directorate of Air Staff prepares a Military Aircraft Accident Summary (MAAS), which is presented to Parliament.'
So, some 18 months further on from that comment and still no report. Is there any official (reputable) word out about what happened here? Not interested in armchair theories, please, just the low-down gen. Thanks.
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Old 12th Feb 2012, 17:14
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No report out yet so there is no official word out about what happened Abbey Road. I suggest we sit tight and await its release into the public domain - you'll see the latest MAAS is dated 2007 so it cannot be that far away.

Then again.....
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ICBM, how 4erking long do they need????? No wonder the MoD budget, and procurement and everything else is a horse's 4rse. These people give bureaucracy a bad name.
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Maybe theyre waiting for Harrier to exit service so it wont leave any costly implications? Whats that you say........?
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Was the cause of this accident ever officially revealed?
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Yes, the report has been published, but I can't find it online. It makes interesting reading for any pilot, but especially for QFIs. Look for the discrepancy between target downwind altitude and that actually achieved. It was a steep overhead recovery suitable for a high threat environment, with pressure to expedite and other distractions, that led to a very high rate of descent.
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Ooh! You are so tantalising with your 'inside knowledge' - and just teasing us, I know. Let me guess. A braking stop full flap/gear descent onto final, with nose too low and insufficient excess power to arrest the RoD while maintaining a safe alpha?
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Ah well - we will have to keep searching for the findings.
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I read a hard copy of this the other day.
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I suspect that since the incident occured in an operational theatre, there is an periodic embargo on general release while the operation is ongoing. I reference the fairly recent release into the public domain of several accident and incident reports from during ops in Iraq.
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Nice of you all to discuss someone elses mistakes on a public forum guys.

I bet he is really chuffed.
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Given that the ac type has now been withdrawn from service are there any actual lessons to be learned?!

Nice to see a Harrier thread back on these pages, WEBF where are you when we need you?

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Old 22nd Jun 2012, 22:22
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As long as human beings fly aeroplanes (or operate any kind of machines), mistakes will happen.

How many of you posting negative comments here have got it wrong and got away with it? If you are honest................

The pilot in this instance is clearly a skilled operative to have been sitting in that seat in the first place. And human.

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Old 23rd Jun 2012, 17:01
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What he was doing with the nozzles is anyone's guess but the amount of nose down achieved was remarkable
Do you have a lot of experience of these types of recovery into KAF?
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Ken Scott wrote:

Given that the ac type has now been withdrawn from service are there any actual lessons to be learned?!
You'd be surprised how much can be learnt from an accident/incident that is applicable to other aircraft types/roles. A GR1 went off the runway in Goose Bay years ago due to a wet runway. Had the F3 force been aware of it (not pointing any fingers here) it might have saved the loss of an F3 in v similar circumstances years later.
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LateArm/Tourist - indeed. All this started because posters love to 'hint' that they know something we don't but cannot tell us. Far better to STFU until the report is in the PD - or, of course, publish it here so we can all see?
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Pilot is currently Red 2, Flight Lieutenant Martin Pert

Red 2 as the guest of Martin Baker for honorary lunch and presentation of his MB tie:

https://twitter.com/martinewp/status/223728831838687232
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Old 23rd Jul 2012, 13:51
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Ha ha. Nice tweet.
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That was supposed to say nice tweeet

(extra e might work)
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