Buying planning tools - rulers etc
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Sorry for bringing this back to the top but I'm still looking.
I contacted the London Name Plate Man Ltd (and all the other links!) - I hit the same problem as always - minimum order!
I was hoping that someone who is still in the RAF (there must be at least a couple) could tell me where the RAF get all their gizzas. A contact number, a name, anything to put me on the right track. I am working for a small Middle Eastern Air Force and they want to buy the right stuff but in small quantities.
For all of you who recommended the non-equipment approach to planning - I agree. It is the way to go but only if you have a background of flying/aviation and a modicum of common sense and the ability to do mental arithmetic. Initially, however, the young guys I am teaching need to use rules etc to get it right - the instinctive way will come with time.
Thanks in anticipation.
I contacted the London Name Plate Man Ltd (and all the other links!) - I hit the same problem as always - minimum order!
I was hoping that someone who is still in the RAF (there must be at least a couple) could tell me where the RAF get all their gizzas. A contact number, a name, anything to put me on the right track. I am working for a small Middle Eastern Air Force and they want to buy the right stuff but in small quantities.
For all of you who recommended the non-equipment approach to planning - I agree. It is the way to go but only if you have a background of flying/aviation and a modicum of common sense and the ability to do mental arithmetic. Initially, however, the young guys I am teaching need to use rules etc to get it right - the instinctive way will come with time.
Thanks in anticipation.
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Ha ha well the vast majority of the Aircrew of the Large Middle East Air Force that i work for possess none of the qualities that you refer to .... and they've been at it quite some time now.... Good luck I've made quite a few strike rulers in my time... amazing how long cardboard ones last! 
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
tcg,
May I suggest something _
Back in the 60s when the RAF took over the RN Buccaneers and was getting the Phantom they liked the RN designed strike-rule. They went to the LNMCo, and were asked how many they wanted. A quick finger count, number of aircraft, number of aircrew, number of spares, and came up with 500 or so.
Like you they were told that the minimum order was measured in DAYS not quantity. The major cost being the setup and the cleanup. In a day some 100,000 could be produced.
Same problem you found.
Now the suggestion. If you can afford it, then order the minimum quantity and then SELL the surplus.
May I suggest something _
Back in the 60s when the RAF took over the RN Buccaneers and was getting the Phantom they liked the RN designed strike-rule. They went to the LNMCo, and were asked how many they wanted. A quick finger count, number of aircraft, number of aircrew, number of spares, and came up with 500 or so.
Like you they were told that the minimum order was measured in DAYS not quantity. The major cost being the setup and the cleanup. In a day some 100,000 could be produced.
Same problem you found.
Now the suggestion. If you can afford it, then order the minimum quantity and then SELL the surplus.
I seem to remember that I was last given planning kit at EFT groundschool/CCGS at Cranwell, and maybe a couple of extra bits from Technical Stores at Linton.
I don't think it could hurt to try and speak to whoever teaches nav lessons at Cranwell's groundschool now, or even just try and get ahold of someone at Linton's stores? They might not be able to tell you much but can probably let you know where they're ordered from.
I don't think it could hurt to try and speak to whoever teaches nav lessons at Cranwell's groundschool now, or even just try and get ahold of someone at Linton's stores? They might not be able to tell you much but can probably let you know where they're ordered from.
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saudih - the difference between your lot and mine is astronomical....lol
pontius - sounds like a plan but knowing my luck, I'd end up with 99,990 of each piece of kit and be unable to shift em.
5F6B - probably the best way ahead........anyone know the number for the nav planning section at Cranwell? Or Stores at Linton?
pontius - sounds like a plan but knowing my luck, I'd end up with 99,990 of each piece of kit and be unable to shift em.
5F6B - probably the best way ahead........anyone know the number for the nav planning section at Cranwell? Or Stores at Linton?
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BRADY Rule
The best piece of planning kit I ever used, but a bit flimsy. You do need to take care of them
Had all the circles, timings/speeds, cutouts you need for FJ LL Ops and fitted in a flying suit pocket
Not sure of address, but someone will have it
I got mine directly from Mr (ex Valley instructor Roger?) Brady & they were about £20 a throw 10 years ago
They could be bought in 1s or 2s, so your 'small quantities' should be ideal
Looking for the contact details
Had all the circles, timings/speeds, cutouts you need for FJ LL Ops and fitted in a flying suit pocket
Not sure of address, but someone will have it
I got mine directly from Mr (ex Valley instructor Roger?) Brady & they were about £20 a throw 10 years ago
They could be bought in 1s or 2s, so your 'small quantities' should be ideal
Looking for the contact details
The MoD operator will; just ring your nearest station, wait for the operator, and ask for the section you're after. Technical stores at Linton should have a phone, but for Cranwell you'd need to speak to the groundschool admin people, and I don't know how they'd be listed.
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BRADY Rule
If you put Brady Rule in the Forum search on this website, it will give you all the contact info you need including Roger's contact details & the place that sells them
Good luck
Good luck
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Touch,
If your small Middle East AF happens to be Islamic, why not ask the Saudi AF to just give them the gear instead of a new mosque or something?
Anyway, haven't your studes passed out since your first post?
If your small Middle East AF happens to be Islamic, why not ask the Saudi AF to just give them the gear instead of a new mosque or something?
Anyway, haven't your studes passed out since your first post?
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SPARE PARTS LOGISTICS for the DEFENSE INDUSTRY
I've no connection with the above company - but they have a search engine that picks up the NSNs you have in this thread. Asking them to see whether they could provide wouldn't cost anything and it seems to be their business.
tu chan - check your PM - may be of help.
I've no connection with the above company - but they have a search engine that picks up the NSNs you have in this thread. Asking them to see whether they could provide wouldn't cost anything and it seems to be their business.
tu chan - check your PM - may be of help.
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5F6B,Sadly the days of a telephone operator at each miltary establishment is long gone. All now centralised, with BT still having the contract AFAIK. There was an entire thread on the subject some time ago.
