Why are you proud to be in the RAF?
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As ex RAF, but (hopefully) of suficiently recent vintage to retain credibility, I can say that without any doubt it is the people who make it special. The amount of grief that has to be endured from crap acomodation, self-serving leaders (within and without)... I just can't be bothered to catalogue the issues as I'm sure you are all familiar with them anyway. My point is that when you take our people away from their comfort zones and ask them to "do the business" they invariably do. It doesn't matter if it's in a war zone or foot and mouth or just a domestic work crisis, they always deliver and that is an incredible, collective, attitude that (you will discover) does not univerally exist outside the forces.
In two words, "Can do".
In two words, "Can do".
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One door slams as another one opens...
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"Spot the irony. Some elements of the 'RAF family' slam the doors pretty quickly when someone leaves."
First hand experience of this!
Not from fellow blue suiters though(PSF were A1) but from civilians doing jobs that used to be staffed by them. The minute I was made redundant they were literally frog marching me out of SFA.
Also...why does MQ rent suddenly become "Violent Profits". Simple answer he said..."you are trespassing!" Kind of hard to stomach that after 22 years service.
"Spot the irony. Some elements of the 'RAF family' slam the doors pretty quickly when someone leaves."
First hand experience of this!
Not from fellow blue suiters though(PSF were A1) but from civilians doing jobs that used to be staffed by them. The minute I was made redundant they were literally frog marching me out of SFA.
Also...why does MQ rent suddenly become "Violent Profits". Simple answer he said..."you are trespassing!" Kind of hard to stomach that after 22 years service.
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Most people joined up to get a job or a trade, a few joined because it was a way to get trained - to fly, to service, to learn, to eat, to have somewhere to live and some money in their pocket.
Novel writers, politicians, PR people are the kind of ****** who go on about being 'proud'.
Get real for Christ's sake.
Pride seemed to come in at unit level when I was in, it certainly wasn't for the bunch of wankers both service and politicos calling the shots (literally) at the moment.
Novel writers, politicians, PR people are the kind of ****** who go on about being 'proud'.
Get real for Christ's sake.
Pride seemed to come in at unit level when I was in, it certainly wasn't for the bunch of wankers both service and politicos calling the shots (literally) at the moment.
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I hope no one minds my comments as a civilian.
i am a bit depressed at some of your replies to the original question.
I see most politicians as wanting one thing, a complete military intergration with Europe. Which seems to mean you lot, our Armed Forces; becoming a small part of the overall military might of Europe.
I think the idea is to reduce and mould you into what Europe, including our politicians; see as our place in the overall combined european states' military might.
Labour never seems to have appreciated the Armed Services but seem to see them as a necessary evil. Not a respectful attitude.
But all politicians now seem to see England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland,- Great Britain, United Kingdom - however you wish to view our nations - as a Corporation and not a Sovereignty in any form.
Idiot politicians say stupid things such as, ( to paraphrase ) "We will take Afghanistan without a shot." they should visit front lines after making crass comments like that and see how they fare.
They do not have a clue what the reality of your positions are. Neither do I in all honesty as I have never been in the Forces. At least I and many others try to.
Whatever your views on this reply, I hope regardless that none of you regret taking the path in your life you have.
i am a bit depressed at some of your replies to the original question.
I see most politicians as wanting one thing, a complete military intergration with Europe. Which seems to mean you lot, our Armed Forces; becoming a small part of the overall military might of Europe.
I think the idea is to reduce and mould you into what Europe, including our politicians; see as our place in the overall combined european states' military might.
Labour never seems to have appreciated the Armed Services but seem to see them as a necessary evil. Not a respectful attitude.
But all politicians now seem to see England, Scotland, Wales, Northern Ireland,- Great Britain, United Kingdom - however you wish to view our nations - as a Corporation and not a Sovereignty in any form.
Idiot politicians say stupid things such as, ( to paraphrase ) "We will take Afghanistan without a shot." they should visit front lines after making crass comments like that and see how they fare.
They do not have a clue what the reality of your positions are. Neither do I in all honesty as I have never been in the Forces. At least I and many others try to.
Whatever your views on this reply, I hope regardless that none of you regret taking the path in your life you have.
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Why are you proud to be in the RAF?
...20 years service nearly completed and I still feel a great sense of pride putting on my uniform (...regardless of quality). Yes there are some real challenges but the people are some of the finest you'll find anywhere.
