F-22 Raptor Crash in California
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Apparently its being reported as happening during a test flight, captive munitions flight test?, and the chase plane lost sight of it.
Hope the pilot made it out OK.
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Hope the pilot made it out OK.
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...initial news reports indicated it went down about 35 statute miles NE of Edwards AFB. That's near the old Cuddeback bombing-range in the Mojave Desert.
No word yet on the pilot. Expensive aircraft to lose... over $300,000,000 each {program-cost}.
No word yet on the pilot. Expensive aircraft to lose... over $300,000,000 each {program-cost}.
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Am i right in saying thats the first F-22 to be lost ?
not a claim to fame i would like to have or the bill for the AC ,
Hope the pilot is safe and well !
not a claim to fame i would like to have or the bill for the AC ,
Hope the pilot is safe and well !
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From the Beeb
The air force said the crash was the second involving an F-22.
In the previous crash, which happened in December 2004 during the aircraft's test period, the pilot ejected safely.
In the previous crash, which happened in December 2004 during the aircraft's test period, the pilot ejected safely.
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For clarification:
Crash 1: YF-22 Landing crash at Edwards Apr 02. PIO.
Crash 2: F/A-22 Take off crash at Nellis Dec 20 04. Gyro failure.
Crash 3: This one.
Also a couple of years ago they had a departure that over stressed the aircraft when penetrating a wake.
Crash 1: YF-22 Landing crash at Edwards Apr 02. PIO.
Crash 2: F/A-22 Take off crash at Nellis Dec 20 04. Gyro failure.
Crash 3: This one.
Also a couple of years ago they had a departure that over stressed the aircraft when penetrating a wake.
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Not related to the crash but.......has the F22 gained a nickname yet? 'Wobbly Goblin' has been taken, but it can only be a matter of time - perhaps when it's nearer the front line and not everyone in the loop is trying to sell it
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F22 Crash
I`m pretty sure the second F22 crash wasn`t gyro failure, but something to do with the FCS not being live when the aircraft took off. Apparently the aircraft had a snag on the pan that necessitated engine shutdown, but the APU was started for electrical power. On engine re-start no electrical power wsa supplied to the FCS causing the crash.
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All modern fighters have various start modes, ranging ( in the case I knew, the Harrier GR5/7/9 with sub ' A ' models in between, from 'ground battery start, ground APU start, ground external power suppport & so on, quite a few different modes - with such a complicated electronic aeroplane as the F-22 one might do well to be a bit wary, even after test flights.
I've seen ( very good ) service Test Pilots flicking furiously through their notes in the hotel, and discussing such things with flight test engineers the evening before a day of test sorties, when the day ahead releasing / firing wapons was already enough on their plate wthout a different start routine - OK nothing like combat, but a different & almost as pervasive stress, having to put it bluntly to prove both the aircraft & themselves.
From what I've read & heard from truly great Test Pilots, a PIO is all too easy to get sucked into by modern FBW aircraft - we've seen the prototype F-22 video.
No idea what happened in this case, but let's say the results once discovered will pergulate through the fleet, meanwhile all my thoughts to families & friends.
I've seen ( very good ) service Test Pilots flicking furiously through their notes in the hotel, and discussing such things with flight test engineers the evening before a day of test sorties, when the day ahead releasing / firing wapons was already enough on their plate wthout a different start routine - OK nothing like combat, but a different & almost as pervasive stress, having to put it bluntly to prove both the aircraft & themselves.
From what I've read & heard from truly great Test Pilots, a PIO is all too easy to get sucked into by modern FBW aircraft - we've seen the prototype F-22 video.
No idea what happened in this case, but let's say the results once discovered will pergulate through the fleet, meanwhile all my thoughts to families & friends.
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