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So is it a win/lose thing between the UK and the US now days?
Interesting, I thought the UK and the US were supposed to be on the same team...
Interesting, I thought the UK and the US were supposed to be on the same team...
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glad rag,
"Desperately needed build programme" ?
Desperately needed for what?
13 Type 23 frigates, 6 Type 45/42 AD Destroyers and 4 Type 22B Frigates along with 7 SSN, SSBNs, the amphibious fleet and the RFA is still quite a powerful force unmatched anywhere outside the USN
Most of the European navies will have no more than 2 modern AD Destroyers.
Just what battle of the Atlantic scenario do you think we will be fighting?
And how many of those frigates, destroyers, subs and support vessels will be available at any one time? How much redundancy will those numbers give us? Although I'm sure it's all been well thought out - that will be enough vessels to conduct the full range of operations unilaterally should we need to. All we need to do now, is to work out how to get these high tech T45s to clone themselves, so they can be in more than one place at any one time.
glad rag,
"Desperately needed build programme" ?
Desperately needed for what?
13 Type 23 frigates, 6 Type 45/42 AD Destroyers and 4 Type 22B Frigates along with 7 SSN, SSBNs, the amphibious fleet and the RFA is still quite a powerful force unmatched anywhere outside the USN
Most of the European navies will have no more than 2 modern AD Destroyers.
Just what battle of the Atlantic scenario do you think we will be fighting?
And how many of those frigates, destroyers, subs and support vessels will be available at any one time? How much redundancy will those numbers give us? Although I'm sure it's all been well thought out - that will be enough vessels to conduct the full range of operations unilaterally should we need to. All we need to do now, is to work out how to get these high tech T45s to clone themselves, so they can be in more than one place at any one time.
And the sailors to man them.
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So absolutley right !
I'm not Einstein, but even I can work out we need more than 6 Type 45's, allowing for CBG coverage, refits etc, + we need a decent long range aircraft ( airframe and/or missiles ) to protect the fleet; I've been accused of being mad for stating these simple FACTS.- Harrier 2+ with AMRAAM seems a good idea for now - but what the hell should I know, I only worked with Flight Test on the AMRAAM & Blue Vixen devlopment.
The F-35B is still a long way from being operational, but I think it will happen in the end.
Does anyone remember G.A. Custer when he set for the Battle of Little Big Horn - ( he didn't know he was at the time presumably through poor recce ) ! -
One of his last printable words was " leave the gatling guns behind boy's, theyll only be a hindrance " !!!
I'm not Einstein, but even I can work out we need more than 6 Type 45's, allowing for CBG coverage, refits etc, + we need a decent long range aircraft ( airframe and/or missiles ) to protect the fleet; I've been accused of being mad for stating these simple FACTS.- Harrier 2+ with AMRAAM seems a good idea for now - but what the hell should I know, I only worked with Flight Test on the AMRAAM & Blue Vixen devlopment.
The F-35B is still a long way from being operational, but I think it will happen in the end.
Does anyone remember G.A. Custer when he set for the Battle of Little Big Horn - ( he didn't know he was at the time presumably through poor recce ) ! -
One of his last printable words was " leave the gatling guns behind boy's, theyll only be a hindrance " !!!
Outward appearances suggest that the RN is still a force to be reckoned with. I don't know why he refers to the RAN and The JMSDF. The RAN is in a far worse state than the RN.
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The numbers he's talking about have less to do with the Royal Navy going up against whoever and more to do with power projection. The numbers presented in that article basically elude to two carrier battle groups with limited support. So if you send one abroad to support some allied operation, that leaves one at home for MX/ in reserve for a major combat operation. Is that enough? I don't know, I'm not British that's for you guys to decide.
