Ex QSP - PPL (A) requirements
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Ex QSP - PPL (A) requirements
Hi All,
Lets see if i can get some sense here as i am getting no response from the CAA.
I am looking to get my PPL A for business reasons and i am an ex QSP H who was un-current when i left in 07 with 1400 hrs including Chipmunk way back when. Using my ELC funding and have done 5 hrs with a school to get back into it and they are now happy with my flying standards.
What i can not get confirmed from the caa is what i am required to do, for both the ground exams and what dispensation for flying i might also be allowed. I am looking to get my night and IMC rating post my ppl.
Any help appreciated?
Thanks
Stuart
Lets see if i can get some sense here as i am getting no response from the CAA.
I am looking to get my PPL A for business reasons and i am an ex QSP H who was un-current when i left in 07 with 1400 hrs including Chipmunk way back when. Using my ELC funding and have done 5 hrs with a school to get back into it and they are now happy with my flying standards.
What i can not get confirmed from the caa is what i am required to do, for both the ground exams and what dispensation for flying i might also be allowed. I am looking to get my night and IMC rating post my ppl.
Any help appreciated?
Thanks
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I did what you're wanting to do a few years ago before we came under JAA, so not sure if my experience is still relevant, but I'll explain:
Like you, I had 40odd hours on Chipmunks, so I had had the requisite number of hours for the award of a PPL. All I had to do what show that I also had the requisite skill after a good few years of flying rotary only. I did about 5hrs instruction, a couple of very easy groundschool tests - Air law was one of them, not sure the other, followed by a test flight with the school examiner. I also had to do a radio telephony test - also very easy for an experienced piliot. That was it.
It seems from what you have said, that you have already done pretty much everything that I had to do, save a couple of exams/tests. Like I said though, that was before the might JAR.
Like you, I had 40odd hours on Chipmunks, so I had had the requisite number of hours for the award of a PPL. All I had to do what show that I also had the requisite skill after a good few years of flying rotary only. I did about 5hrs instruction, a couple of very easy groundschool tests - Air law was one of them, not sure the other, followed by a test flight with the school examiner. I also had to do a radio telephony test - also very easy for an experienced piliot. That was it.
It seems from what you have said, that you have already done pretty much everything that I had to do, save a couple of exams/tests. Like I said though, that was before the might JAR.
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Thanks for the replys.
LASORS only talks about current QSP's as far as i could see..
Don't mind what i have to do except i would be slightly annoyed if i had to pay for a load of hours that are not required. Already done 5 and the CFI would put me in for the test.
Just can't move forward at the moment..
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LASORS only talks about current QSP's as far as i could see..
Don't mind what i have to do except i would be slightly annoyed if i had to pay for a load of hours that are not required. Already done 5 and the CFI would put me in for the test.
Just can't move forward at the moment..
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LASORS - p. 130:
"Any previous flying experience in single-engine piston
(Land) aeroplanes gained during any Service Elementary
Flying Training Courses including the UAS Flying Course
(that commenced prior to November 2000, or incomplete
courses from any period of time) may be counted
towards the requirements for the grant of a JAR-FCL
PPL(A). Applicants wishing to claim credits against these
requirements will be required to attend a registered facility
or approved FTO and provide logbook evidence of their
training (certified by their military course instructor) to
the Chief Flying Instructor. The CFI will then establish a
course of training taking into account previous experience
to ensure that the specific requirements of C1.2 have
been met.
In addition to any flying training required (where there is
a shortfall of requirements), applicants will be required
to complete one cross-country flight of at least 270km
(150nm), during which full stop landings at two different
aerodromes of departure shall be made, pass all JAR-FCL
PPL(A) theoretical knowledge examinations* and pass the
PPL(A) skill test.
* If the graduate is now a UK QSP(H) credits will be
given for the Navigation & Radio Aids and Meteorology
examinations."
"Any previous flying experience in single-engine piston
(Land) aeroplanes gained during any Service Elementary
Flying Training Courses including the UAS Flying Course
(that commenced prior to November 2000, or incomplete
courses from any period of time) may be counted
towards the requirements for the grant of a JAR-FCL
PPL(A). Applicants wishing to claim credits against these
requirements will be required to attend a registered facility
or approved FTO and provide logbook evidence of their
training (certified by their military course instructor) to
the Chief Flying Instructor. The CFI will then establish a
course of training taking into account previous experience
to ensure that the specific requirements of C1.2 have
been met.
In addition to any flying training required (where there is
a shortfall of requirements), applicants will be required
to complete one cross-country flight of at least 270km
(150nm), during which full stop landings at two different
aerodromes of departure shall be made, pass all JAR-FCL
PPL(A) theoretical knowledge examinations* and pass the
PPL(A) skill test.
* If the graduate is now a UK QSP(H) credits will be
given for the Navigation & Radio Aids and Meteorology
examinations."
1. Pass all JAR-FCL PPL(A) exams.
2. Pass RT Practical Test
3. Research your Chipmunk flying to claim dual and solo FW hours towards required totals.
4. Fly solo Q X-C.
5. Fly appropriate hours for Night Qualification and any remaining dual/solo time needed to meet total FW requirement.
6. Pass PPL Skill Test.
7. Apply for PPL(A) including Night privileges.
8. Take IMCR course including theory exam.
9. Pass IMCR Skill Test.
10. Apply for IMCR to be included in your PPL(A).
2. Pass RT Practical Test
3. Research your Chipmunk flying to claim dual and solo FW hours towards required totals.
4. Fly solo Q X-C.
5. Fly appropriate hours for Night Qualification and any remaining dual/solo time needed to meet total FW requirement.
6. Pass PPL Skill Test.
7. Apply for PPL(A) including Night privileges.
8. Take IMCR course including theory exam.
9. Pass IMCR Skill Test.
10. Apply for IMCR to be included in your PPL(A).