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Old 29th Dec 2008, 07:56
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Just seen an exclusive on the SOCC at High Wycombe and an interview with what I thought was a Scopie Flt Lt at Fylingdales - anyone see it?

V interesting.... but did anyone see the Flt Lt's little silver brevet badge on his blue shirt?

A stealth introduction of badges on blue shirts per chance?
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Silver Brevets - I very Much Doubt It

Any chance someone could post the Sky link?
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Go here:
Sky News Video Player

Then click on the UK News tab. The video is called How Britain Spies on the Spies.

I think he may be wearing a PPRuNe badge

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Not a PPRuNe badge....


About time that metal shirt badges were introduced - more appropriate than the silly logo and other recent nonsenses.
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USAF badge perhaps?
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We in the FAA tend to buy our metal badges from the FAA museum. The last one I bought cost me £4.99 each.

Maybe the RAF Museum sells RAF metal wing badges?
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I got mine from the RNZAF. It was either free or 22p, can't remember
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Things that are public now... interesting!

As for the metal badge - aren't they NAEWF FC wings? Sure I saw some FC chap recently with similar on from his time at Geilenkirchen.

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However, if they are not cleared brevets then they shouldn't be worn!! Regardless of whether they are stuck to some FC computer geek!
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I know some guys from that strange world that do the USAF exchange come back with their 'satellite wings' - could be them.

Beagle - a badge for every uniform isn't needed for us to know who the aircrew are. Honestly. We can tell. There are other 'combat indicators' that are rather obvious to any casual observer.
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USAF Space Ops Badge from the looks of it, seen it on No1's before.
Details at Space and Missile Badge - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Given the video is truly 'Open Source', why did you feel the need to give that poor Flt Lt the Zorro treatment?

For what it's worth, I suspect the badge in question may well be American in origin - issued on completion of specialist trg perhaps?

Oh and that's no FC Computer Geek - we're all ABMs now apparently.
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I always thought that we were in the RAF not the USAF. Does that mean we can wear 5 gold stars and be the employee of the month???????????
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For what it's worth, I suspect the badge in question may well be American in origin
It is.
issued on completion of specialist trg perhaps?
A BMEWS Operator / Controller course at a very educated guess.
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Going for gold

Why isn't the badge gold plated like his computer equipment?


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Heaven forbid we should ever fail to recognise a FC/ABM or whatever they are calling themselves now, at first glance.

The wings are obviously an indication that he is 'special'.
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So just to clarify,

The Space Operations Badge was a military badge of the United States Air Force which was awarded to those personnel who completed training in space warning, satellite command and control, missile operations, space surveillance, or space lift. It was typically issued as a companion decoration to the Missile Badge.

The Space Operations Badge was presented in three grades being that of basic, senior, and master. The basic badge was awarded for completion of initial space training while the senior and master badges were awarded based on years of service in Air Force Space assignments; for officer the steps occur at seven and fifteen years respectively. For enlisted personnel the senior badge was awarded upon attaining a "7 skill level" and the master badge as a Master Sergeant or above with five years in the specialty from award of the senior badge.

The grades of the Space and Missile badge were denoted by a star (senior) and wreath (master) centered above the decoration.

Former Master Space Operations BadgeIn 2004, the Air Force Force Space Command Commander, General Lance Lord, announced the introduction of a new badge. The new Space Professional Badge replaced the Space Operations Badge and the Missile Operations Badge. The new badge is no longer limited to pure space and missile operators, but is also awarded to scientists, engineers, communicators and acquisition officers who have performed space/missile acquisition and operations duties.




Sorry didn't see Royal Air Force Space Operations Badge anywhere in this text........
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In this case Google is not your friend.....As not all aspects of the relationship between US Space Command and Fylingdales are posted on the web.
Under the MoU between the US and the UK all ops personnel at Fylingdales are trained and and evaluated to a standard agreed by both sides. As a result the course at Fylingdales is 'recognised' by the US and all personnel completing the course are awarded the basic US Space Badge. Everyone qualified is expected to wear the badge and currently it is worn on the left hand side above the shirt pocket.
So the scopie Flt Lt in question was wearing the badge because he had been directed to, not because it looked cool and shiny.
You could argue, that as it is a foreign service qualification, it should have been worn above the right hand pocket. Of course, the whole 'should anything be worn on the shirt' arguement will run and run as well.
If you want to have a go at someone I suggest you write to CINC Air or AOBM; both have been to Fylingdales and neither has had an issue with the wearing of the badge. Alternatively, you could write to Stn Cdr RAF Fylingdales; you never know he might be sympathetic

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So is that you in the picture then WB?
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So those (aircrew) who come from RNZAF/RAAF et al who get to wear their wings on their shirts in their previous service have the same entitlement to wear their 'earned' wings on the shirt of an RAF uniform??, and what about their No.1s?
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