Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

Sea Harriers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 18th Dec 2008, 20:09
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Up-diddly-up.
Posts: 106
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post
Sea Harriers

Hi everyone, I just thought I'd take some time out to sort through my collection of aircraft photos and found these in a folder on my computer. They were taken mostly on HMS Illustrious, except for the head on shot from a French C-135FR.

Enjoy...























SB
sunshine band is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2008, 20:11
  #2 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Up-diddly-up.
Posts: 106
Received 4 Likes on 1 Post




















sunshine band is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2008, 20:22
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Glesga, Scotland
Age: 51
Posts: 230
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Brilliant pics mate
fallmonk is offline  
Old 18th Dec 2008, 22:06
  #4 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: Oz
Posts: 644
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Lovely!
FoxtrotAlpha18 is offline  
Old 19th Dec 2008, 06:28
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 1999
Location: Quite near 'An aerodrome somewhere in England'
Posts: 26,821
Received 271 Likes on 110 Posts
Excellent photos - and a sad reminder of a capability prematurely thrown away by this so-called government...


A box of Kleenex for WEBF please......
BEagle is online now  
Old 19th Dec 2008, 07:28
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: South of Penge
Age: 74
Posts: 625
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
One point has always intrigued me.
Why did the Sea Harrier have a Starboard Facing Oblique F-95 camera ? (rather than the more normal Port Facing Oblique -as in the first generation RAF Harriers ).
RETDPI is offline  
Old 20th Dec 2008, 04:52
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: West Sussex
Posts: 1,771
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
At last a question I can answer !

Imagine, as I'm sure you have done, ' panning' a stills camera to get a moving target, ie at an airshow aircraft doing a low pass in focus, background blurred to show the speed or at least keep the aircraft sharp.

With modern digital civilian kit you could freeze both from a bystanders's point of view but it certainly wouldn't show the aircraft speed / height / position for useful tactical purposes.

The Vinten F-95 recce' camera had a system of moving the film across the film plane DURING the exposure, just as if one was ' panning ' a stills camera at at a moving object.

It also had a mild vacuum system to keep the film onto the film plane, though this was deleted on export versions ( F-100 ) and I suspect rarely bothered with on operations.

I spent a lot of time with this camera, but still found it very difficult to engage the ' inching on ' knob with the film side perforations by feel ( all one had to go on ) - I confessed to one cocked up test flight because of that, and people fell over like the palm trees launching Thunderbird 2 because I admitted it !

The reason the F-95 was on the different side from Sea Harrier compared to GR3 etc was simply to fit kit in, but keep the 'panning' system the same- camera mounted upside down in the Sea Harrier for that reason.

It was obviously a mild sod to work on, but nothing compared to the average fitter's job, especially on something like the Hunter.

I work at a museum now where there's a Swift, as you know delegated to low level recce' with 3 x F-95's - I'd love to see how the poor sods worked on these ! Ours ( Tangmere ) is an earlier example.

We also had to test a Vinten recce' pod for another export country which stands out particularly among others - while other systems ran fine, the F-100 nose camera and actual mechanical design of the pod left a lot to be desired .

When asked to write a report on the thing, I was taken aside, though not bolllocked, it was commented " we wished you hadn't used words like ' need to be improved' or ' defect' as they're a bit of a bother !

J.F, I know you are busy at the moment ( & Ta ) but I'm sure you'll know what I mean.

The F-95 used low quality optics and systems, above all the reliance on a berk like me for ( or in action a front liner ) for the settings,having to best-guess the speed & height of a recce' pass from a briefing he may or probably not was privy- to - how many of you pilots fancy being restritced by that ?!!!

DZ ( That monniker was a mistake, I meant Dastardly & Muttley's car, not 00 bloody 7 - will have to find how to get a motif onto my callsign ).
Double Zero is offline  
Old 20th Dec 2008, 20:25
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: East Sussex
Age: 86
Posts: 276
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
As remember, in the Valiant, the panning or image movement (IMC) was fed in by the Green Satin. It didn't have to be preset.
pontifex is offline  
Old 21st Dec 2008, 15:22
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: UK
Posts: 799
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Absolutely outstanding pictures - thank you
Engines is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.