F-18 down in San Diego
Or an example of how hundreds, likely thousands of other times having two engines has saved the day. Pilots of SE tactical jets have pressed on in situations they likely shouldn't have as well. This isn't a single engine vs two engine issue.
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More an issue of a student pilot (transitioning to type) relying on the advice of those more qualified in the aircraft than he... and getting bad advice.
Perhaps the pilot was led into a false sense of security by the 'committee' advising him over the radio?
My experience as a duty bod in the tower was that, at the slightest hint of a student emergency, every man and his dog would try to get to the tower to add their 'advice'. So we adopted the principle that the duty authoriser would be the only person allowed in and the duty aircrew officer would bar the door to everyone else - station commander included (although he knew that).
A review of the emergency procedures, then 'land as soon as possible' was all that should have been needed. But this sounds like a complex emergency rather than just a single engine failure, so advice from the ground seems reasonable to me. From an expert, though, not from a committee.
My experience as a duty bod in the tower was that, at the slightest hint of a student emergency, every man and his dog would try to get to the tower to add their 'advice'. So we adopted the principle that the duty authoriser would be the only person allowed in and the duty aircrew officer would bar the door to everyone else - station commander included (although he knew that).
A review of the emergency procedures, then 'land as soon as possible' was all that should have been needed. But this sounds like a complex emergency rather than just a single engine failure, so advice from the ground seems reasonable to me. From an expert, though, not from a committee.
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" (CNN) -- Deferred maintenance, faulty decisions by controllers and the pilot of a fighter jet contributed to an aircraft's fatal crash into a San Diego, California, neighborhood in December, the Marine Corps announced Tuesday...
The commander of the fighter squadron involved in the crash, its top maintenance officer and two others have been relieved of duty as a result of the crash investigation. The pilot has been grounded pending a further review..."
Nine other Marines have received other disciplinary action..."
The Marine Corps has always fought for its existence since its start. Maybe this is another tragic example why doing more with less will come around full circle. And the head Marine brass wonders why we have a higher accident rate...
The commander of the fighter squadron involved in the crash, its top maintenance officer and two others have been relieved of duty as a result of the crash investigation. The pilot has been grounded pending a further review..."
Nine other Marines have received other disciplinary action..."
The Marine Corps has always fought for its existence since its start. Maybe this is another tragic example why doing more with less will come around full circle. And the head Marine brass wonders why we have a higher accident rate...
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Confusion
Pilot's statement points to confusion
The pilot's statement, released as part of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing's investigation, shows a young aviator overwhelmed by the cascade of problems he faced after taking off from the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln...
It also shows he received an array of conflicting advice from those on the ship and on the ground, who seemed to be confused about {an} increasingly dire situation. Authorities first told him to return to the aircraft carrier, then directed him to North Island, then decided that he should land at Miramar.
Yesterday's report provided the first public airing of {the pilot's} version of events and gave more details about the orders he received... investigators blamed {the mishap F-18 pilot} for not questioning misguided directives more forcefully. The pilot had asked authorities several times to confirm their orders.
He “demonstrated an unacceptable lack of assertiveness even given his lack of experience,” the document concluded. “By neglecting to emphasize his (fuel problems) and failing to question base's decision to send him to Miramar, (he) allowed himself to be put into an untenable position.” ...
The pilot's statement, released as part of the 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing's investigation, shows a young aviator overwhelmed by the cascade of problems he faced after taking off from the aircraft carrier Abraham Lincoln...
It also shows he received an array of conflicting advice from those on the ship and on the ground, who seemed to be confused about {an} increasingly dire situation. Authorities first told him to return to the aircraft carrier, then directed him to North Island, then decided that he should land at Miramar.
Yesterday's report provided the first public airing of {the pilot's} version of events and gave more details about the orders he received... investigators blamed {the mishap F-18 pilot} for not questioning misguided directives more forcefully. The pilot had asked authorities several times to confirm their orders.
He “demonstrated an unacceptable lack of assertiveness even given his lack of experience,” the document concluded. “By neglecting to emphasize his (fuel problems) and failing to question base's decision to send him to Miramar, (he) allowed himself to be put into an untenable position.” ...
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The pilot had asked authorities several times to confirm their orders.
He “demonstrated an unacceptable lack of assertiveness even given his lack of experience,” the document concluded. “By neglecting to emphasize his (fuel problems) and failing to question base's decision to send him to Miramar, (he) allowed himself to be put into an untenable position.” ...
BS!!
He “demonstrated an unacceptable lack of assertiveness even given his lack of experience,” the document concluded. “By neglecting to emphasize his (fuel problems) and failing to question base's decision to send him to Miramar, (he) allowed himself to be put into an untenable position.” ...
BS!!
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The Safety Investigation Report has been out for a while. The SIR is For Official Use Only and is not for public release nor subject to FOIA requests.
A redacted version of the JAG/Command investigation has been released with the Commanding General's endorsement.
I do not believe that administrative (permanent grounding, resignation, etc.) actions are publicly disclosed.
S/F, FOG
A redacted version of the JAG/Command investigation has been released with the Commanding General's endorsement.
I do not believe that administrative (permanent grounding, resignation, etc.) actions are publicly disclosed.
S/F, FOG
