Removing flight suit patches
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The velcro idea was really a plot to pee off the flying clothing squippers. In the early 80's we only had to sew the badges onto flying suits. Then after 1982 it was, sew velcro onto badges. Trim velcro neatly around badge. Get the opposite piece of vlcro. Trim to shape. Sew onto flying suit, in the correct place. Attach velcro clad badge to velcro clad flying suit.
AFAIK this has continued to this day.
AFAIK this has continued to this day.
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Pick, almost right. Before 1982 we had used velcro when we could get it then the squippers found a rule that said the badges had to he sewn onto the flying suit directly. Of course during the FI they all had to be cut off.
Finally we got permission to have velcro 'badges' and would remove the stick on badges before flight to abide by the rules.
Finally we got permission to have velcro 'badges' and would remove the stick on badges before flight to abide by the rules.
My understanding (which I agree now is likely to be incorrect) is that if the a/c was shot down during a conflict the enemy would not be able to glean any useful information from the patches etc.
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Nametags
Talking about badges, I noticed that aircrew wear different colour name tags. I've seen red, green, black, blue, sand tags etc.. but can't make out who wears what. Can anybody shed some light?
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Thanks
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Morgan,
Quite right, although a smoking Tornado GR4 or a Harrier GR7 is a bit of a give away, as it the tail art and serial numbers.
Some years ago the squipers also had a hand in destroying our cover. Everything had local serial numbers writ large such as WAD-Spare or COT69 or 29S-123, that sort of thing.
They surpassed themselves when they put scotchbrite tape on our helmets. Great if you had just landed in a field, all that Joe had to to was shine a torch. So we had black bodge tape put over the scotchbright.
In peacetime, if we bailed out, and were conscious, we would pull the bodge tape off. Now it might seem better to leave the bodge tape off until we went to war; you must remember however that we were at 'war' until 1989/90 with crews often at 15 minutes readiness or higher.
Quite right, although a smoking Tornado GR4 or a Harrier GR7 is a bit of a give away, as it the tail art and serial numbers.
Some years ago the squipers also had a hand in destroying our cover. Everything had local serial numbers writ large such as WAD-Spare or COT69 or 29S-123, that sort of thing.
They surpassed themselves when they put scotchbrite tape on our helmets. Great if you had just landed in a field, all that Joe had to to was shine a torch. So we had black bodge tape put over the scotchbright.
In peacetime, if we bailed out, and were conscious, we would pull the bodge tape off. Now it might seem better to leave the bodge tape off until we went to war; you must remember however that we were at 'war' until 1989/90 with crews often at 15 minutes readiness or higher.
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Thanks PN,
I thought it had to do with units/roles but I got totally puzzled seeing two pilots from the very same squadron wearing different colours. Guess one of them was just matching his eyes???
I thought it had to do with units/roles but I got totally puzzled seeing two pilots from the very same squadron wearing different colours. Guess one of them was just matching his eyes???
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Morgan, sorry, my reply was really to Flash.
The different coloured name badges are simply an additional new fashion for the RAF. Initially we envied the USAF Leather patches. in the 60s the US could produce RAF pilot name patches but not rear crew.
They we managed to get a sort of standarised black patch, white name and border. Then some sqns started to individualise the background. one of the earliest was the Jaguar OCU who adopted Tartan as they were based at Lossiemouth. Then others had red and white, blue and yellow, green/red and so on.
One reason for this proliferation was they they could afford to pay for new patches when they moved form sqn to sqn.
An earlier variation on this was the sqn patches. British made ones were of hight quality but expensive. Crews based in the Middle or Near East were able to get much classier badges with silver and gilt metal thread made in Pakistan. They often had white felt backing rather than black.
Just fashion.
The different coloured name badges are simply an additional new fashion for the RAF. Initially we envied the USAF Leather patches. in the 60s the US could produce RAF pilot name patches but not rear crew.
They we managed to get a sort of standarised black patch, white name and border. Then some sqns started to individualise the background. one of the earliest was the Jaguar OCU who adopted Tartan as they were based at Lossiemouth. Then others had red and white, blue and yellow, green/red and so on.
One reason for this proliferation was they they could afford to pay for new patches when they moved form sqn to sqn.
An earlier variation on this was the sqn patches. British made ones were of hight quality but expensive. Crews based in the Middle or Near East were able to get much classier badges with silver and gilt metal thread made in Pakistan. They often had white felt backing rather than black.
Just fashion.
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Talking about badges, I noticed that aircrew wear different colour name tags. I've seen red, green, black, blue, sand tags etc.. but can't make out who wears what. Can anybody shed some light?
Thanks
Thanks
brown = pint of Newcastle Brown
sand = any p*ssy week ozzy lager
red = wine
etc
Saves time in the bar afterwards.
I hate velcro. I hate badges (apart from the fun meter / give a ****ometer ones). I hate poofter bags (nav bags). I hate log book covers. I hate zips in boots. I hate them because they come with the promise of hobnobs / beer. I hate them because they make me a fat git.
I'll raise AH7's Jaffa Cakes, and offer 2x packets of Ginger Nuts for each of two logbook covers (cos I can).
Oh, and name of the saviour of Army aviation is minigundiplomat.
Oh, and name of the saviour of Army aviation is minigundiplomat.
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Most Awesomely Bad Military Patches 10 | Danger Room from Wired.com
Worth a look if you want to see some interesting patches.
Worth a look if you want to see some interesting patches.
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Personally I prefer using a pair of scissors rather than velco. Make two cuts, one on each sleeve, this creates a sleeveless flying suit which is tres cas and very cool in the tropics. It goes well with hairy arm pits and the FMJ look.
Not recommended for lying as there is nowhere to put your knife, fork and spoon.
Not recommended for lying as there is nowhere to put your knife, fork and spoon.