Lusty or Ark this aftermnoon
Part of the several hundred tonnes associated with the "CV" margin is set aside for a couple of steam plants, condensers and distilled water plants. Too late for Lizzy, but with the way things are, still just about possible for PoW. Of course, whether the capacity of these plants would be enough to feed a C-13 (or BS6.....) at a rate sufficient to launch every minute is another question.....as is whether we could re-establish a steam module in the engineering courses, or accommodate the required clankies aboard ship.
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But, with nothing designed in to produce steam for the models of catapult currently in production, so those can't really be fitted. The RN will have to wait for EMALS.
The steam catpult was a British development which borrowed quite a bit from the V1 launch catapult. And the V1 launcher was powered by what was war time Germany's favorite chemical -- Hydrogen Peroxide.
See below for recent thinking on Hydrogen Peroxide synthesis
Degussa/Headwaters Incorporated Building Demonstration Plant for Direct Synthesis of Hydrogen Peroxide | Business Wire | Find Articles at BNET
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Several hundred tons? They'd need that for EMALS too. Three 80,000-pound motor-alternators per cat. Get 'em whizzing up to speed, slam the switches and convert inertia to electricity in three seconds.
Now consider that they won't let you use your cell phone with its 3 volt battery inside the airplane, in case it turns upside down...
Now consider that they won't let you use your cell phone with its 3 volt battery inside the airplane, in case it turns upside down...
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Good point, just what will all those teslars (I think that's the unit) of magnatism from the EMLS do the the chips 'n drives in Dave's PCs? Has anyone tried it? Come to think of it, the rest of the ship's IT might get wiped with every launch. Guess the EMP resistance of these gin palaces had better be top notch, or will it back to valves and transistors?
Electromagnetic Aircraft Launch System
I doubt that I am alone in not knowing what EMALS consists of and how it is intended to work. As ever, Google is your friend 
Be prepared to put your thinking caps on before reading !
Be prepared to put your thinking caps on before reading !
No I haven't - is there anything special in it?
To what do you refer, kluge?
Edit: Ah-ha, I see! Thanks to Google. I might buy a copy - it looks quite interesting!
To what do you refer, kluge?
Edit: Ah-ha, I see! Thanks to Google. I might buy a copy - it looks quite interesting!
Looking back at John Farley's picture that opened this thread, if one focuses at the centre of the carrier with the a/c to your LHS, that F35 could almost be a Buccaneer on the back of the Ark!
Or have I been 'reading' too many 'art pamplets' under the covers!!
Or have I been 'reading' too many 'art pamplets' under the covers!!
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Don't think the RN has had good experiences last time it tried using HTP.......
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And as for what's believed to have happened on the Kursk...
Russian submarine Kursk explosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Russian submarine Kursk explosion - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Oh come on boys, no guts no glory. What would Nelson have made of all this, girly, we don't fancy HTP nonesense? It's only water with a dash more oxygen, where's the harm in that?
But at least people are talking cats and traps now, not all this barmy SRVL stuff with the only variant of the JSF that DOESN"T have an arrestor hook. Of course that's not hazardous at all, right?
But at least people are talking cats and traps now, not all this barmy SRVL stuff with the only variant of the JSF that DOESN"T have an arrestor hook. Of course that's not hazardous at all, right?
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"Oh Gawd, you don't want to be doing that. Some beancounter will see the photo and deduce that Dave will fit on one of the current 'carriers'."
The laughable fact is that we can currently only generate around 6 - 8 Harriers for Lusty - let alone 36 for a CVF. Lusty could probably handle 10 - 12 F35Bs... so you actually have a point. Some might say.. if we are unlikely ever to get above 12, why even bother building a new ship. Spend £1.5bn on a massive SLEP for Vini, Lusty and Ark.
The laughable fact is that we can currently only generate around 6 - 8 Harriers for Lusty - let alone 36 for a CVF. Lusty could probably handle 10 - 12 F35Bs... so you actually have a point. Some might say.. if we are unlikely ever to get above 12, why even bother building a new ship. Spend £1.5bn on a massive SLEP for Vini, Lusty and Ark.
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Both pictures (note the upper one is a mod of an official photo with the same added double-overhang of the lower one) are the brainchild of a poster on Warships1 and NavWeaps Discussion Boards - Message Board - Yuku by the handle of "Sunk at Narvik".
He came up with this as a modernization for the Invincible class ships a couple of years ago. It is purely an amateur "what-if" idea.
He came up with this as a modernization for the Invincible class ships a couple of years ago. It is purely an amateur "what-if" idea.
