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Old 20th Nov 2008, 18:44
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The Connie at Changi was owned by Ace Freighters ( Air Charter Enterprises ? ) , i remember it as well.
A long time ago
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Was he the VGS CO for a while?
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The Connie at Changi was owned by Ace Freighters
Yes indeed, but I seem to remember the rain gradually washing away that company's insignia to reveal Aer Lingus's Shamrock beneath! Rumour had it that the TOC checklist was reading out the minutes of the last Board Meeting prior to the Agenda for this one, but then it was only a rumour!
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Originally Posted by boswell bear
My reason for asking is that in a recent conversation someone thought that the only serving officer who could be classed as an ace was a guy who flew in the Indo-Pakistani War of 1965. Just wondered if that is correct.
Ah, misread the initial question as 'RAF aces'....
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dunno if this helps or not but I once found a tape of Motorhead's Ace of Spades in the tapedeck device in the back of the F3 on a return from a det. Sadly our interest was more in recovering the hidden cargo of ******* from the ******* *** before the grown-ups pitched up.

Edited to allow the art of getting away with it to continue..
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ISTR it was Errol (sp?) Webb, Sqn Ldr. He taught me OS when I was at Cranditz in 2003. Excellent war stories, plenty of tales to tell.

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Old 23rd Nov 2008, 12:41
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Is Errol "the ace"?
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Old 23rd Nov 2008, 13:08
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Nah,

THAT was Errol Flynn
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Old 23rd Nov 2008, 16:31
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Nostrinian, let us assume for a moment the theoretical point that certain parts of the F3, are never used in transit from XXXXXX to XXXXXX. those areas are (for the sake of argument) the right size for a bottle of.....um....... pepsi, yes, pepsi. let us call it that. this pepsi comes in a very nice size and the unmentioned areas hold several bottles...........

It is similar to the ENTIRELY FICTIONAL account in North SAR by the late Gerry Carroll of a USN SAR crew hiding a bottle or two of high strength alcohol (for medicinal purposes i'm sure) in the Helo for the trip out to the boat.

have I been clear enough and yet vague enough. Mind you there is still no evidence and I am sure the modern, Fit, CCS'd and fully briefed RAF would never do anything as heinous as that which I might have mentioned........

Alas I can remember very little of my short time on the F3 - I blame alcohol.
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The last (official) RAF aircraft air-to-air 'kill' was an Egyptian Spitfire in 1948.

A number of RAF pilots have achieved kills whilst flying with other services, notably USAF in Korea and RN in the Falklands.
Allegedly, an RAF Javelin downed an Indonesian C-130 during the 1960s, and an RAF Hunter scored a manoeuvre kill against a MiG-17 at a similar time.

Though not an ace, there is still one serving RAF pilot who can claim to have destroyed a German aircraft (a Huey during an exchange tour, by crashing it). The Germans, with remarkable good humour, presented him with the stick-top mounted above a plaque saying "Confirmed Kill, Huey No XXX", plus date and his name!
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