Iceland sees red over RAF mission
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Cods-wollop !
Real battle ? Shirley thou dost jest !
The modern Royal Navy does not engage its opponents by ramming. That went out in the days of muskets.
I can recall a damaged frigate coming into the Tyne after being rammed by one of the Icelandic gunboats. Big hand to the lads onboard for their superb repairs made at sea. That was a Rothsay or Whitby class ASW type.
The truth is as previously said.. The usual hands (4.5in)tied scenario with very lightly skinned frigates against very heavily built trawler hulls. No contest if ramming.
The best the RN could do was race to get between the Icelandic gunboats and our trawlers to protect them. I seem to recall 'Odin' and 'Thor' being particularly notorious.
It was nasty and unfortunate as there ought not to be any quarrel between our countries. I for one, wanted to see an example made of the Odin, but in retrospect I feel that the Icelanders had a point about conserving stocks. They were ahead of their time it seems.
The modern Royal Navy does not engage its opponents by ramming. That went out in the days of muskets.
I can recall a damaged frigate coming into the Tyne after being rammed by one of the Icelandic gunboats. Big hand to the lads onboard for their superb repairs made at sea. That was a Rothsay or Whitby class ASW type.
The truth is as previously said.. The usual hands (4.5in)tied scenario with very lightly skinned frigates against very heavily built trawler hulls. No contest if ramming.
The best the RN could do was race to get between the Icelandic gunboats and our trawlers to protect them. I seem to recall 'Odin' and 'Thor' being particularly notorious.
It was nasty and unfortunate as there ought not to be any quarrel between our countries. I for one, wanted to see an example made of the Odin, but in retrospect I feel that the Icelanders had a point about conserving stocks. They were ahead of their time it seems.
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Bird2008,
You are trying to muddy the waters. The information in the public domain is not different. It is on open record that the Icelandic Prime Minister got caught out trying to mislead Darling. It is om open record that the Icelandic governemt was trying to take British Investors' money out of the Uk when there wasn't even enough to pay off the legally required minimum, let alone actually what the banks owed. Those are facts, not opinion and not open to discussion. If you read any differently in Iceland then please ask them why they are not telling the truth, it's very simple.
The telephone conversation transcript has been released showing that the Icelandic Prime Minister was caught out, and the short-fall in Icelandic banks in the Uk has been detailed. WHere are there any different facts to refute these ?
Your idea that ".... a friend does not stap another friend in the back when he needs help ...." applies to both parties - does a "friend" (Iceland steal money from its friend (the UK) to illegally preferentially pay of its own people ! I think you need to look at what a "friend" means in such circumstances.
The assets had to be frozen because they were being moved illegally to the detriment of the UK investors and to favour the Icelandic investors - what is "friendly" about that ? The problem was that the icelandic banks had over-extended themselves and did not have enough money - they were acting illegally in trying to favour one set of investors over others.
I think you need to have yourself and your friends to have more conversations with your bankers, regulators and government and get some real answers and stop them playing PR games trying to blame others.
.
You are trying to muddy the waters. The information in the public domain is not different. It is on open record that the Icelandic Prime Minister got caught out trying to mislead Darling. It is om open record that the Icelandic governemt was trying to take British Investors' money out of the Uk when there wasn't even enough to pay off the legally required minimum, let alone actually what the banks owed. Those are facts, not opinion and not open to discussion. If you read any differently in Iceland then please ask them why they are not telling the truth, it's very simple.
The telephone conversation transcript has been released showing that the Icelandic Prime Minister was caught out, and the short-fall in Icelandic banks in the Uk has been detailed. WHere are there any different facts to refute these ?
Your idea that ".... a friend does not stap another friend in the back when he needs help ...." applies to both parties - does a "friend" (Iceland steal money from its friend (the UK) to illegally preferentially pay of its own people ! I think you need to look at what a "friend" means in such circumstances.
The assets had to be frozen because they were being moved illegally to the detriment of the UK investors and to favour the Icelandic investors - what is "friendly" about that ? The problem was that the icelandic banks had over-extended themselves and did not have enough money - they were acting illegally in trying to favour one set of investors over others.
I think you need to have yourself and your friends to have more conversations with your bankers, regulators and government and get some real answers and stop them playing PR games trying to blame others.
.
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I have a nice photgraph in my log book of rht Baldur, no tug I assure you, but she had a very crumpled flight deck. 
Not long after I remember a dark taxi-ride to somewhere not far from kef with the route marked with the very same Cod we had been fighting over. About every 20 yards, in the middle of the road, was a Cod, fallen of the back of a truck yr honour, honest.
Not long after I remember a dark taxi-ride to somewhere not far from kef with the route marked with the very same Cod we had been fighting over. About every 20 yards, in the middle of the road, was a Cod, fallen of the back of a truck yr honour, honest.
