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The news is very simply that! Something which is new. This was not a news story, all those who had lost loved one's in Iraq and Afghanistan were approached by the film makers. It was explained this film would record ALL those lost in the two wars and not just those "interesting" ones.
I watched the whole 3 hrs and found it normalized my grief. What I and Ben's family are feeling is the same as the others are. Anyone who is familar with the works of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and her five stages of grief will understand this.(denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance).
The model is perhaps a way of explaining how and why 'time heals', or how 'life goes on'. And as with anything when we know more about what is happening, then dealing with it is usually made a little easier.
This model has no time limit on it, and you may recall some of the families mentioning being in denial or feeling angry and in the one case a mother counting off the years knowing she would be nearer to her own death.
What it showed was these guy's weren't just statistics, they were dad's brother's husband's, partners and above all individuals. Thats what I feel the public will get from it, the story behind the story.
I watched the whole 3 hrs and found it normalized my grief. What I and Ben's family are feeling is the same as the others are. Anyone who is familar with the works of Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and her five stages of grief will understand this.(denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance).
The model is perhaps a way of explaining how and why 'time heals', or how 'life goes on'. And as with anything when we know more about what is happening, then dealing with it is usually made a little easier.
This model has no time limit on it, and you may recall some of the families mentioning being in denial or feeling angry and in the one case a mother counting off the years knowing she would be nearer to her own death.
What it showed was these guy's weren't just statistics, they were dad's brother's husband's, partners and above all individuals. Thats what I feel the public will get from it, the story behind the story.
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I am loathe to debate it, because I feel that offering my contra perspective will seem like an arguement. I think its 'just' that the public plays its part in understanding the sacrifice that all families have played of those who die in all public service. I think its right because it is if nothing else, a historical record, it helps and it teaches us not to keep making the same old mistakes. So we are of the same accord with that.
I do think that it may be handled better and more effectively. This is too important to be treated as a one off commissioning piece - there does need to be some kind of macroperspective that keeps it in check and in keeping. There are committees up the ying yang right now, coordinating how the media message for the 2012 Games is going to be obtained and maintained. Same as the EU and the House of Windsor, and for that matter, Nike and General Motors (but commercially). In much the same way, so too should the memory of those who fall be cherished with an oversight, and not treated as a one off tick in the box by a meeja careerist, however lovingly and well crafted this particular programme was put together.
I do think that it may be handled better and more effectively. This is too important to be treated as a one off commissioning piece - there does need to be some kind of macroperspective that keeps it in check and in keeping. There are committees up the ying yang right now, coordinating how the media message for the 2012 Games is going to be obtained and maintained. Same as the EU and the House of Windsor, and for that matter, Nike and General Motors (but commercially). In much the same way, so too should the memory of those who fall be cherished with an oversight, and not treated as a one off tick in the box by a meeja careerist, however lovingly and well crafted this particular programme was put together.
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Take it from someone who has the to look in the mirror and see those eyes look back at me that what we must take from the film is the magnitude of the loss endured, but what we must celebrate is what we had and for those fortunate to return, have. I inadvertantly watched, for the first time ever, the X factor video and as sickly sentimental it is, it brings home a point, we must concentrate on those alive and left behind and need of our help. after all, apart from allowing those of us left behind to express our grief i thought that the impact of the armed forces, their sacrifice in todays climate, was to be portrayed. even still, as heart wrenching and mixed up it feels to watch the troops come home, be glad and there in end the thread. this film is about many people and how they lost, not just the story of a few, that struck a chord, and in some cases for the wrong reasons. we were affected in different ways by watching the film, as we are affected in different ways by what we lost, be it relative or colleague, nonetheless and hard as it seems it;s time to let them be. let them rest in the peace which they earnt. we, as a forum, will never forget and that for one is good for me.
keep the faith.
keep the faith.
As someone who missed the broadcast, and then couldn't get onto a good enough link to download the whole iPlayer version, I was pleased to find that it's going to be broadcast again on BBC 1 on Wed (tomorrow) at 0150. I've set up to record it this time.
Sorry about the late notice.
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Sorry about the late notice.
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