Go Back  PPRuNe Forums > Aircrew Forums > Military Aviation
Reload this Page >

MOD (Lost Personal Info) --admits it--Compensation?

Wikiposts
Search
Military Aviation A forum for the professionals who fly military hardware. Also for the backroom boys and girls who support the flying and maintain the equipment, and without whom nothing would ever leave the ground. All armies, navies and air forces of the world equally welcome here.

MOD (Lost Personal Info) --admits it--Compensation?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 31st Oct 2008, 16:12
  #1 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EGDL
Posts: 279
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
MOD (Lost Personal Info) --admits it--Compensation?

I got my letter yesterday from MOD admitting that my personal details were amongst the ones that have been lost. Question is--is there a case for compensation?
OKOC is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 17:09
  #2 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South Wales
Age: 63
Posts: 729
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I assume that if you were to receive any compensation you would donate it to something worthy such as Help for Heroes.

Tell you what, if the MOD were to have to compensate for this then they could direct the money to where it is really needed; cut out the middle man. On your agreement of course?
SRENNAPS is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 17:18
  #3 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2000
Location: Bar to Bar
Posts: 796
Received 9 Likes on 2 Posts
Ahh, the compensation culture, don't you just love it. Tell you what, when you can prove you have been disadvantaged and not just had your feelings hurt by this fiasco then you may have a case to answer, until such times let the MoD spend their time and dosh on more important things like boots, bombs and bullets and of course upgrading accommodation etc etc etc.
Sloppy Link is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 19:56
  #4 (permalink)  
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: EGDL
Posts: 279
Received 5 Likes on 2 Posts
And why should I donate my potential compensation to anyone or any cause, Oh, because Messrs b and c demand that it be so--and why should I be already pre-judged and on what grounds? Did I say I was going to keep it? I don't believe I did so wind your necks in.
OKOC is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 20:13
  #5 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France 46
Age: 77
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AIDU

Why should OKOC disclose to a cartographers assistant information which could lead to further losses?
cazatou is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 20:35
  #6 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France 46
Age: 77
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AIDU

I see that you are into the denigration and slander mode that lead you to leave a previous thread.

The original question was quite valid; you may wish to consider how much information you would have included in your post if you were liable to fraud due to data loss.
cazatou is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 20:45
  #7 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France 46
Age: 77
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AIDU

Re Slander

Suggest you read your post No 9 again.

Quote

"as a money grabbing pikey he is trying to enhance his meagre pension."
cazatou is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 21:01
  #8 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: France 46
Age: 77
Posts: 1,743
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
AIDU

You did not say you judged or believed him to be " a money grabbing pikey" - you stated it as a fact. You made an absolute statement - not a qualified one.

Time for the ignore button again.

Bye - Bye

cazatou is offline  
Old 31st Oct 2008, 21:55
  #9 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: South Wales
Age: 63
Posts: 729
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
OKOC

Did I say I was going to keep it? I don't believe I did
You gave no impression that you would not keep it.

And why should I donate my potential compensation to anyone or any cause
Because there are a lot more people out there suffering a greater loss than you could ever imagine.

--and why should I be already pre-judged and on what grounds?
Beacuse you started this thread
SRENNAPS is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2008, 11:03
  #10 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Up North
Posts: 801
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
From what I understand from looking at the issue, the first data loss (RN laptop) led to an investigation and enforcement notice against the MoD by the Information Commissioner, who ruled that 2 of the data protection principles (3rd and 7th principles) had been broken and that Article 8 of ECHR had been unlawfully interfered with.

My belief is that MoD is wide open on the issue. And that's only for breach #1. I've been the victim of 3 breaches, most recent communication is from the Army Recruitment and Training Division - and I joined the chuffing Air Force!!!!

Sorry for those who take a dim view of the compensation culture, but I believe the only way MoD will ever take appropriate measures (with regard to this, or other far more serious issues) is through litigation. I, for one, would give any cash to a Service charity.
JessTheDog is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2008, 11:55
  #11 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Exiled in England
Age: 48
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Me, as I am a money grabbing b4st4rd, were it me I would donate.....Hmmm.

30% to RBL, 30% to H4H, 30% to RNLI and yes dammit I would keep 10%!!

And to anyone who thinks the RNLI don't go out and fight I say to you they fight against the biggest, meanest and nastiest enemy there is - The Sea.

Enough of this cr4p, I'm off to buy that there morpheus rising tune . Oh and where is the best rememberance sunday service near Plymouth?? My local church don't give it enough Oomph.
cornish-stormrider is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2008, 14:41
  #12 (permalink)  
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Transiting the M27
Age: 50
Posts: 277
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
cornish-stormrider,

where is the best rememberance sunday service near Plymouth
Speak to your local RBL branch and ask them, my luvver. Believe me, nothing beats sitting alongside the old boys with the full RBL regalia. I will be joining my local branch on the Sunday, and all being well will be at the Cenotaph on Whitehall on the 11th.
Beatriz Fontana is offline  
Old 1st Nov 2008, 14:45
  #13 (permalink)  
Red On, Green On
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Between the woods and the water
Age: 24
Posts: 6,487
Likes: 0
Received 2 Likes on 2 Posts
While you might get an ex-gratia payment, to get an award through a court you'd have to show a personal loss/cost as a direct result (on the balance of probabilities) of the loss of your data. Simply saying you might have been compromised is not enough.
airborne_artist is offline  

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright © 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.