One Wing Landing
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One Wing Landing
I would love to know what he said when he got out of the cockpit!
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Initially, it really grips you.
However, when you look at rudder deflection just before touchdown, you begin to wonder. Not enough, given the pivot forces required.
I feel like I've just been told Father Christmas doesn't exist.
Saw pictures of an F15 (Israeli) that lost a lot of it's starboard wing. That actually did happen, but waters were muddied by a bit of photoshop action showing fuel streaming from the bloodied stump while the jet was still allegedly airborne. Pictures of the two mates safely back on the ground posing in front of the jet complete with inane,'f*ck me, I'm alive', world-beating grins with matching soiled g-suits tell the story. No doubt the shagging wing was missing.
Cue cool F700 entry: Midair collision. Starboard wing fell off. Landed without further incident. Ole! as our Spanish friends would say.
However, when you look at rudder deflection just before touchdown, you begin to wonder. Not enough, given the pivot forces required.
I feel like I've just been told Father Christmas doesn't exist.
Saw pictures of an F15 (Israeli) that lost a lot of it's starboard wing. That actually did happen, but waters were muddied by a bit of photoshop action showing fuel streaming from the bloodied stump while the jet was still allegedly airborne. Pictures of the two mates safely back on the ground posing in front of the jet complete with inane,'f*ck me, I'm alive', world-beating grins with matching soiled g-suits tell the story. No doubt the shagging wing was missing.
Cue cool F700 entry: Midair collision. Starboard wing fell off. Landed without further incident. Ole! as our Spanish friends would say.
One Wing Landing
Unfortunately not filmed but undoubtedly genuine was Neil Williams's little spot of bother with a lower wing attachment bolt on a Zlin 526 at Hullavington in the early 1970s. His full report is here:
Zlin wing Structural Failure Report - Neil Williams
Zlin wing Structural Failure Report - Neil Williams
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IIRC did one of our Hercs land at Stanley minus a fair amount of port wing...
this was due to a midair with a SAR Sea King... sadly the Sea King was lost with her crew...
believe both aircraft were involved in a SAR sortie...
cant remember if weather was the main factor so will not elaborate on any theories as to blame...
this was due to a midair with a SAR Sea King... sadly the Sea King was lost with her crew...
believe both aircraft were involved in a SAR sortie...
cant remember if weather was the main factor so will not elaborate on any theories as to blame...
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There is also that famous story (somewhere on Pprune also) of the Israeli F-15 landing with one wing after a collision.
Also, two F-18s in the US collided (I think near Beaufort) with one of them coming in with most of the wing missing trailing fuel everywhere.
Also, two F-18s in the US collided (I think near Beaufort) with one of them coming in with most of the wing missing trailing fuel everywhere.
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XV 206 - Midair Collision
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I was in ATC at RAF Stanley when the mid-air occurred in about June 1985 and I heard the initial Maday call. It was a mid-air in IMC to the north and outside our radar coverage (max 80 miles with the AR1, but usually worked on a setting of 40 miles).
The other ac was a RN Sea King and as you say all the crew was killed. RAF SAR Sea Kings did find I think one body and some wreckage floating.
If it can be said in such tragic circumstances, it was very fortunate that Mount Pleasant Airport was at an advanced stage of construction and although not operational was able to accept a diversion. After some debate it was decided that the C130 (XV 206) would attempt a landing there rather than the narrow, slippery and short strip at Stanley.
The collision took out about 10 feet of the port wing, 100% of the aileron and had resulted in the loss of the No. 1 engine due to fuel loss. The wing that remained attached had major "tears" to within a foot of the No.1 engine nacelle. In a fine display of airmanship a safe (flapless) landing was made with no further damage and after some time an outer wing was flown in and XV206 was able to depart. It had been the MRR configured Herc with ESM pods on the wings so I guess that it had been on such a sortie at the time of the collision and that the two ac were just totally unaware of each other until impact. IIRC that they were operating under different agencies and were not on the same frequency......
All very sad but it could have been worse had the Herc gone down as well. I have some very graphic photos showing the damage....
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I was in ATC at RAF Stanley when the mid-air occurred in about June 1985 and I heard the initial Maday call. It was a mid-air in IMC to the north and outside our radar coverage (max 80 miles with the AR1, but usually worked on a setting of 40 miles).
The other ac was a RN Sea King and as you say all the crew was killed. RAF SAR Sea Kings did find I think one body and some wreckage floating.
If it can be said in such tragic circumstances, it was very fortunate that Mount Pleasant Airport was at an advanced stage of construction and although not operational was able to accept a diversion. After some debate it was decided that the C130 (XV 206) would attempt a landing there rather than the narrow, slippery and short strip at Stanley.
The collision took out about 10 feet of the port wing, 100% of the aileron and had resulted in the loss of the No. 1 engine due to fuel loss. The wing that remained attached had major "tears" to within a foot of the No.1 engine nacelle. In a fine display of airmanship a safe (flapless) landing was made with no further damage and after some time an outer wing was flown in and XV206 was able to depart. It had been the MRR configured Herc with ESM pods on the wings so I guess that it had been on such a sortie at the time of the collision and that the two ac were just totally unaware of each other until impact. IIRC that they were operating under different agencies and were not on the same frequency......
All very sad but it could have been worse had the Herc gone down as well. I have some very graphic photos showing the damage....
MB
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The Herc was on MRR and had descended to investigate the ship contact and had descended to pass astern. The SK was climbing away astern and they collided IMC. The Herc also had a party of RN down back on an experience flight.
IIRC not only did the lose the wing and have damage to the outer engine they also had to shut down the remaining engine on the same side.
After landing at MPA they put everyone on a wokka to take them back to Stanley - which itself declared an emergency and landed back a couple of minutes after take-off. After that they put everyone on a bus.
I, for my sins, was Ops 1 and SFSO at Stanley at the time.
IIRC not only did the lose the wing and have damage to the outer engine they also had to shut down the remaining engine on the same side.
After landing at MPA they put everyone on a wokka to take them back to Stanley - which itself declared an emergency and landed back a couple of minutes after take-off. After that they put everyone on a bus.
I, for my sins, was Ops 1 and SFSO at Stanley at the time.
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During Granby we had a Herc arrive back at Lye with a few feet of (starboard I think) wing missing. Apparently a contre temps with a hover taxying Super Puma in Saudi was the cause! I undertand that the Herc was starting up when the rotor caught the wing, punctured the underwing fuel tank which covered the unfortunate Air Eng or Loadie with fuel! Fortunately no fire! A bit of cardboard and tape over the end of the remaining wing got it back to blighty for repair.
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XV 206 - Midair Collision
Both the Herc and Sea King were searching for a North Korean fishing boat that had been fired at for fishing "illegally" in Argentinean waters and was moaning all over the Marine VHF about it.
Think the RN Sea King was off RFA Argus but not sure, as it was a long time ago.
The weather was indeed a "factor" in the Mid-air IIRC the Herc was still IMC when it hit and originally thought they had hit a mast.
Remember watching the Herc recover at MPA and the circle it did before actually landing on the then very new FAPADS. Then when to work plotting the search on the old totes, location was N of Byron.
Me I was a lowly SAC at JHQ Stanley.
Think the RN Sea King was off RFA Argus but not sure, as it was a long time ago.
The weather was indeed a "factor" in the Mid-air IIRC the Herc was still IMC when it hit and originally thought they had hit a mast.
Remember watching the Herc recover at MPA and the circle it did before actually landing on the then very new FAPADS. Then when to work plotting the search on the old totes, location was N of Byron.
Me I was a lowly SAC at JHQ Stanley.
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Didn't one of the F3's hit the large mast by Stanley, a few years back?
lost a lot of one wing?
lost a lot of one wing?
XV206 went on to meet its own demise in Lashkar Gar, Afghanistan on 24th May 2006
