UK to award new support deal for RAF TriStars
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Cracking post drustsonoferp, (**** username tho') just goes to show just how lacking the service engineering has become due to those who CUT, CUT, CUT.
Yes George, I do mean you and your "synergy".
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Originally Posted by philrigger
It does not help the maintenance time when the MoD insists that extra work is introduced into the maintenance plan 'while it is in the hangar'.
The funny thing is, I've never yet heard of a supplier refusing a a change order. It's worth too much money to them, regardless of what it might do to delivery, quality, reliability etc.
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Marshalls have not done Tristar majors for at least 10 -15 years...
They are done at GAMCo which is now ADAT.
But ADAT used to give away free tools and set guess where this spare bit goes competition.
They are done at GAMCo which is now ADAT.
But ADAT used to give away free tools and set guess where this spare bit goes competition.
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Cracking post drustsonoferp, (**** username tho')
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AMS
The three C2/C2A variants (transports) are actually ex Pan Am, the other six tanker aircraft are ex BA.
No, all the seats face forwards.
Lots of trips to the deserts various, and a very occasional jaunt to the Rockies.
The tankers have a far more varied life.
The three C2/C2A variants (transports) are actually ex Pan Am, the other six tanker aircraft are ex BA.
No, all the seats face forwards.
Lots of trips to the deserts various, and a very occasional jaunt to the Rockies.
The tankers have a far more varied life.
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OSD is currently 2015 - which is at least 6 years more service for those 9 airframes. The contract equates to £1.8m per aircraft/year, which compares quite favourably to the maintenance costs of similar types.
Dennis - What's the alternative then?
Dennis - What's the alternative then?
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RAF Tristar Contract
With significant spare capacity in the charter market - outsource more service traffic. Tankers , well there's a story! What about a European Tanker fleet based on Airbus...
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DennisW & BrainPotter. According to the Mod there is no problem. Page 110 of the MoD Annual Report and Accounts Volume I 2007-08 (For the year ended 31 March 2008) states clearly that:
So they were all paid off after Easter. Job done!
We have procured two further C17 Globemaster aircraft in addition to the four envisaged in 2004 and we signed the £13Bn PFI contract for a fleet of new Air Transport and Refuelling Airbus A330-200s to replace the RAF’s TriStar and VC-10 aircraft in March 2008.
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Dennis,
The AirTanker programme will not be ready to take over from the TriStar until 2014-ish - assuming no more delays. The programme is now at the stage where no long term replacement could be up-and-running in any shorter time-scale. You can, with hindsight, argue about the decisions that have created this situation until you are blue in the face, but it won't change a thing. A fleet of instant replacement tankers to buy off-the-shelf does not exist.
On the AT side, it is an often-used but little understood argument to pronounce more charter as the panacea. The MoD is already makes extensive use of charter, but the TriStar fleet has specialist capabilities that the civilian aircraft cannot offer.
£97m is not a large contract and, assuming that Marshall's deliver the goods, seems to be reasonable value.
The AirTanker programme will not be ready to take over from the TriStar until 2014-ish - assuming no more delays. The programme is now at the stage where no long term replacement could be up-and-running in any shorter time-scale. You can, with hindsight, argue about the decisions that have created this situation until you are blue in the face, but it won't change a thing. A fleet of instant replacement tankers to buy off-the-shelf does not exist.
On the AT side, it is an often-used but little understood argument to pronounce more charter as the panacea. The MoD is already makes extensive use of charter, but the TriStar fleet has specialist capabilities that the civilian aircraft cannot offer.
£97m is not a large contract and, assuming that Marshall's deliver the goods, seems to be reasonable value.
