GURKHA COURAGE and LOYALTY ABUSED YET AGAIN!
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GURKHA COURAGE and LOYALTY ABUSED YET AGAIN!
As I live in France I do not get a daily UK Newspaper; it therefore came as a surprise that Gurkha soldiers have to apply to become resident in the UK.
Can someone please provide me with details of how I can contribute towards their Legal Expenses in respect of their current Court Case?
Perhaps HMG should consider the words of Field Marshal The Viscount Slim KG, GCB, GCMG. GBE, DSO, MC:
The Almighty created in the Gurkha an ideal infantryman, brave, tough, patient,adaptable, skilled in field-craft, intensely proud of his military record and unswervingly loyal. Add to this his honesty in word and deed, his parade perfection, and his unquenchable cheerfulness, then service with Gurkhas is for any soldier an immense satisfaction
Can someone please provide me with details of how I can contribute towards their Legal Expenses in respect of their current Court Case?
Perhaps HMG should consider the words of Field Marshal The Viscount Slim KG, GCB, GCMG. GBE, DSO, MC:
The Almighty created in the Gurkha an ideal infantryman, brave, tough, patient,adaptable, skilled in field-craft, intensely proud of his military record and unswervingly loyal. Add to this his honesty in word and deed, his parade perfection, and his unquenchable cheerfulness, then service with Gurkhas is for any soldier an immense satisfaction
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Cazatou: Thanks for that. 
I've forwarded that quotation to my (Labour) MP with the following addition:
Why has this had to go to the High Court? This pusillanimous regime has allowed into our country all kinds of people from all over the world, some of whom are prepared to do us harm or commit crimes against us and who are not removed from our country either because the ministry charged with that duty does not think it worthwhile or the government can not frame its legislation on such a way that the judiciary must follow its aims.
How come, then, men who have served our country with devotion and loyalty are not considered worthy of residence? Tell me that, please.
I'll let you know if I receive a reply, but I'm not holding my breath...
I've forwarded that quotation to my (Labour) MP with the following addition:Why has this had to go to the High Court? This pusillanimous regime has allowed into our country all kinds of people from all over the world, some of whom are prepared to do us harm or commit crimes against us and who are not removed from our country either because the ministry charged with that duty does not think it worthwhile or the government can not frame its legislation on such a way that the judiciary must follow its aims.
How come, then, men who have served our country with devotion and loyalty are not considered worthy of residence? Tell me that, please.
I'll let you know if I receive a reply, but I'm not holding my breath...
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I recall that the Ghurkas were also shabbily treated some years ago over a question of pension differentials. This government allows dangerous extremist scum and petty criminals to come and stay here without let or hindrance, can't or won't deport them when it is legal and appropriate and yet men who have served the Queen, for 20+ years in some cases, who been wounded, earned medals and more, are deemed to have insufficient connection with this Country to be granted residency. I wish I was still a dual national - I'd give up thr British bit of it like a shot. I am ashamed of my country and its dealings with these fine and honourable men.
Don't let's have any claptrap about "We are only enforcing the law as it stands". Get started on some deportations to show you mean business!!!!!
Don't let's have any claptrap about "We are only enforcing the law as it stands". Get started on some deportations to show you mean business!!!!!
Best of both worlds:
1. Let the ex Ghurka's who are not fit for work have full UK residential status.
2. Employ the ex Ghurka's who are fit for work as Deportation Agents with full residential status.
3. Use them to get rid of the Illegals and undesirables from the UK.
Then everyone who should be happy, will be happy.
Nice to see Tul Badahur Pun VC looking well, but was that smile due to Joanna Lumley?
2. Employ the ex Ghurka's who are fit for work as Deportation Agents with full residential status.
3. Use them to get rid of the Illegals and undesirables from the UK.
Then everyone who should be happy, will be happy.
Nice to see Tul Badahur Pun VC looking well, but was that smile due to Joanna Lumley?
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Nice to see that some sections of the population disagree with me; because that is democracy.
However, nobody has answered the question:
HOW DO I CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND TO HELP THE GENTLEMEN FR0M NEPAL???
However, nobody has answered the question:
HOW DO I CONTRIBUTE TO THE FUND TO HELP THE GENTLEMEN FR0M NEPAL???
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At Last!
I know this is an Aircrew (mainly) forum, but for once here is an issue worthy of the people who have contributed so much to our Forces.
I have enjoyed carting a few loads of these warriors (I use the word advisedly) from place to place over the years and am always impressed by their geniality, cheerfulness and downright professionalism.
I've just given my two army issue kukris to a friend who will polish them and make them worthy of these little guys - the big men of the Ghurka regiment.
When I think of some of the dross that is allowed rights in our country, it is totally iniquitous that these men (and their families) don't have the rights of total strangers.
What's the matter - they too honourable for this government to stomach?
I have enjoyed carting a few loads of these warriors (I use the word advisedly) from place to place over the years and am always impressed by their geniality, cheerfulness and downright professionalism.
I've just given my two army issue kukris to a friend who will polish them and make them worthy of these little guys - the big men of the Ghurka regiment.
When I think of some of the dross that is allowed rights in our country, it is totally iniquitous that these men (and their families) don't have the rights of total strangers.
What's the matter - they too honourable for this government to stomach?
Cazatou,`google` is your friend;ie gurkhas.com...or howe & co,solicitors dealing with the case...
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I have a reply from my MP! He says he is definitely with me on this one.
The obvious follow-up question has got to be, "So what are you doing about it?" I'll let you know if he responds to that one. Has anyone else contacted their MPs - and have they replied?
Cazatou: Any success? If every Ppruner put in £5...
The obvious follow-up question has got to be, "So what are you doing about it?" I'll let you know if he responds to that one. Has anyone else contacted their MPs - and have they replied?
Cazatou: Any success? If every Ppruner put in £5...
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5 years ago a French Army Mechanised Brigade held manouvres in our local area. At the end of their exercise the Unit spent the night in the local Town. None of the Soldiers paid for a drink that night!!!
The following morning they departed and drove past my then house - the Colonel saw my UK registered car and stopped to have a chat!!
5 years ago a French Army Mechanised Brigade held manouvres in our local area. At the end of their exercise the Unit spent the night in the local Town. None of the Soldiers paid for a drink that night!!!
The following morning they departed and drove past my then house - the Colonel saw my UK registered car and stopped to have a chat!!
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On a cruise holiday chat forum someone has set up a poll for the Ghurkas. Last time I looked it was 25:0.
Many security staff of cruise ships are Ghurka. You may remember the incident on Seabourn Pricess where a Ghurka manned the cpounter-measures system and after being wounded continued to operate the kit.
I also saw a Ghurka on the QE2 manning the same kit while in a French port.
Many security staff of cruise ships are Ghurka. You may remember the incident on Seabourn Pricess where a Ghurka manned the cpounter-measures system and after being wounded continued to operate the kit.
I also saw a Ghurka on the QE2 manning the same kit while in a French port.
I am disgusted with the treatment of these guys. From ITN:
Gurkhas who fought with the British Army but have no strong ties to the UK do not have the right to settle here, a lawyer representing the Home Office has told a High Court judge.
Steven Kovats was replying to a challenge by more than 2,000 Gurkhas to a tribunal ruling on their immigration status.
Gurkhas who retired from the British Army after 1997, when their base was moved from Hong Kong to Kent, can automatically stay in the UK.
But those who retired earlier and whose individual settlement cases were decided by visa officials in Kathmandu and Hong Kong must apply for permission to stay and may be refused and deported.
The judge, Mr Justice Blake, asked whether a Gurkha who had won a Victoria Cross but had no strong ties would be eligible to settle.
Mr Kovats replied: "Having a VC is not necessarily a strong tie bringing the entry application within the policy."
Where does Britain go from here? Down the pan.
Gurkhas who fought with the British Army but have no strong ties to the UK do not have the right to settle here, a lawyer representing the Home Office has told a High Court judge.
Steven Kovats was replying to a challenge by more than 2,000 Gurkhas to a tribunal ruling on their immigration status.
Gurkhas who retired from the British Army after 1997, when their base was moved from Hong Kong to Kent, can automatically stay in the UK.
But those who retired earlier and whose individual settlement cases were decided by visa officials in Kathmandu and Hong Kong must apply for permission to stay and may be refused and deported.
The judge, Mr Justice Blake, asked whether a Gurkha who had won a Victoria Cross but had no strong ties would be eligible to settle.
Mr Kovats replied: "Having a VC is not necessarily a strong tie bringing the entry application within the policy."
Where does Britain go from here? Down the pan.
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Nice to see the courts with some common sense for once : BBC NEWS | UK | Gurkhas win right to stay in UK
A group of retired Gurkhas fighting for the right to settle in Britain have won their immigration test case at London's High Court.
They were challenging immigration rules which said that those who retired from the British Army before 1997 did not have an automatic right to stay.
Prominent supporter actress Joanna Lumley said it was a "chance to right a great wrong".
The government said it would now review all Gurkhas' cases.
They were challenging immigration rules which said that those who retired from the British Army before 1997 did not have an automatic right to stay.
Prominent supporter actress Joanna Lumley said it was a "chance to right a great wrong".
The government said it would now review all Gurkhas' cases.
Now that really is an Absolutely Fabulous result!
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Agreed - this is a brilliant result but how long will the "review" take?
I would have thought there was nothing further for the government to say; action is now required, not words and delaying tactics.
Cynic? Moi?
I would have thought there was nothing further for the government to say; action is now required, not words and delaying tactics.
Cynic? Moi?
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Gurkha court case.
With you Rigger 1. Thank god common sense has prevailed. Only hope this no hope government doesn`t find a way out of the ruling. Well done everyone involved in getting this through the courts.