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Remind me again? Why is Lyneham closing??

Old 31st Jul 2008, 21:06
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Remind me again? Why is Lyneham closing??

Lyneham News

Paragraphs 4 and 5. So, would it not be a good idea to keep the place open then?
We need a change of HMG; the Con Party will keep it open!
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 21:47
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I'm not sure about the positive slant on the weather. Pick a hill, shove an airfield on top, call it Lyneham and make it a MEDA.

Says the chap who had to go to work at a nearby Oxfordshire airfield one New Year's Eve because the MEDA was fogged out, again
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 22:24
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What wide-ranging infrastructure? There isn't even a fuel hydrant there.

Does Wiltshire never have bad weather? Blimey. I do like that bit tho - because it is in a different place to other airfields, it might have different weather. Really? Amazing.
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 22:48
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Cos its full of dirty, smelly, noisy Hercs?
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Old 31st Jul 2008, 23:20
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I'm not sure about the positive slant on the weather. Pick a hill, shove an airfield on top, call it Lyneham and make it a MEDA.

Says the chap who had to go to work at a nearby Oxfordshire airfield one New Year's Eve because the MEDA was fogged out, again
What's a MEDA these days? We used to have loads of them, hence if one was fogged out there was another, within your fuel range, that could take you!

Then again, i might just be ranting about the good old days again - pull
up a sandbag!!!
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 06:43
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MEDA - Military Expenditure Dropped Again

That's what we like to hear.

Safety first!! (after budget constraints, of course )
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 08:49
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Yes - it may be on top of a hill but in 10 years I have been fogged in/out only 4 times

It has two runways for those nasty crosswinds or when the main runway might get flooded or be closed by peace protestors.

It also has enough parking for 100% of it's aircraft all year round with sufficient spare capacity to handle all the air charter and diverted aircraft that a nearby airbase can't cope with.

It has enough hangar space to enable the engineers to rectify the airframes.

It doesn't need to refurbish all its MQ estate, has enough local amenities, including schools, to cater for the service and civilian workforce.

It's close to major road links, SPTA and Wales, closely located to all major user units.

It has enough movers to handle more than 1 inbound AT aircraft every 4 hours whilst still supplying manpower to deploy and assist a nearby airbase because they are short-staffed.

Everyone likes working at Lyneham and the morale is superb considering it has had the death knell sounded on it for the last 3 years.

Still - the uber-base have promised they can do all this and more on half the budget they asked for!

Can't wait to see where they will squeeze the C130Ks and C130Js, A400Ms, FSTA, VC10s, Tristars, visting/diverted aircraft, air charter, trials units and all the associated personnel and infastructure
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 09:04
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Well, there's your answer!

"Everyone likes working at Lyneham and the morale is superb considering it has had the death knell sounded on it for the last 3 years".

Everyone likes it. Best close it then. Can't have happy campers now can we?!
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Remind me again? Why is Lyneham closing??

Quote:"Paragraphs 4 and 5. So, would it not be a good idea to keep the place open then?
We need a change of HMG; the Con Party will keep it open!"

Would that be the same Con Party that destroyed the Forces' medical care, shut most of the Service hospitals, sold off the married quarters estate for peanuts, oversaw an enormous redundancy programme etc, etc?............
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 10:09
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Everyone liked St Mawgan and thats now closed.

Already been said on numerous threads but 'what if' an incident occured at Brize and the runway is closed for hours on end or for that matter, hours of dense fog?

No transports or tankers will get airborne... and those already in the air will end up at Manchester probably, miles from their intended destination because Lyneham will be full of helicopters.

Whereas before, atleast if Lyneham wasn't fogged in, AT could get airborne and in...and all the eggs were not in one basket so to speak.
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 10:54
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Its not closing. Although news on the Belvedre (sp?) has been quiet, all SH will still being going there in 2013. No surprise that the environmental impact studies of having 100 helicopters there has not been done yet though.
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Fairford - Razor61 ??

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Old 1st Aug 2008, 13:47
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Fairford's only open on an as-needed basis, don't think the tower is always manned, dunno how quickly it could be done in an emergency...
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 15:05
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Quote "Bredbury hall is a good place to stop".

Layover I would suggest!
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I have looked at the whole Lye/Bzn thing and arrived at the conclusion that putting all the Strat and TAC AT into an airfield with only one runway is a less than sensible thing to do.

I give it 10 years after we've moved out before the mistake has been realised and we move back into Lye again.
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Apparently last week a couple of the SH squadrons were briefed by a senior officer that they will be based at Lyneham in 2013...

Are all the Sims going to move?

???????

I would like to meet the person that thinks that all this is a good idea...
It just gets more ridiculous.
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 19:48
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Forget Bredbury hall, the div for Brize is usually Brum these days and then they can get a bus to ya to get you back to base for the next trip
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 20:01
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Are all the Sims going to move?
Bet CAE's contract will make that an expensive item?
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Old 1st Aug 2008, 20:30
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....and there was Min AF saying earlier this year that there were no plans to
keep Lyneham whatsoever in the MoD estate.

That could come back and bite him in the ass in the Commons?!
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Originally Posted by tonyosborne
Fairford's only open on an as-needed basis, don't think the tower is always manned, dunno how quickly it could be done in an emergency...
Last I knew, you were correct on manning. So long as the tower is manned by USAF, you won't get a "quick" opening for any emergency - USAF ATC have pretty strict crew rest requirements not unlike aircrew, so unless they've got rested boys on standby or alert, you'll need fuel to hold for 12+ hours!
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