How do i go officer from the ranks?
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2. Probably not. The principle is that you must be fully compliant with the fitness rules when you enter as you are unlikely to improve as you get older, quite the reverse.
There is a sufficiency of fully fit applicants that they do not need to make exceptions.
Rather than go for airmen entry why not apply for a commission right off? if you are successful then that is OASC out of the way followed by IOT. Then all you have to do is convince the medics. If you follow the airman route you have to convince both OASC, IOT and medics later on.
That route also puts you almost a year ahead of the game as the airman applicant then has that 9 month IOT hurdle too.
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I have just been told that i can not go for a commission until completion of my trade training in 4 years. This can't be right, can it?
Does anyone have or can point me in the right direction for the rules as I am getting so many conflicting points of views from within the service.
thanks in advance.
Does anyone have or can point me in the right direction for the rules as I am getting so many conflicting points of views from within the service.
thanks in advance.
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Trade training - 4 years? Pilot training is only 2. Sounds like they are trying the first tour amortisation rule.
Your 1st commission RO HAS to assess you for commissioning if you wish.
If he assesses you fit then get yourself off the the AFCO.
There are many people who either don't bother to read the rules or say no for an easy life.
"No you can't sign off as your are not fit - you can apply but we won't forward the application."
He rang his desk officer "Who said that? I decide if you can sign on or not."
I know someone who wanted to cross from Army to RAF. The Army said NO because of the amortisation rule. He checked. He was not leaving Betty's employment so his skills would not be lost. He joined the RAF.
Call their bluff. Tell them to show you the rules. Then get a copy and read them yourself.
This would appear to be one line of approach:
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The Open Door policy allows contact with your Career Manager by telephone between the hours of 1330 and 1630 Mon to Fri.
Career Managers have to meet the current manpower requirement, and plan for the future manpower requirement, by filling positions with suitably qualified and able people whilst taking into account the needs of the individual, be they personal or professional. The ‘Open Door’ facility is an important element in this process as it allows RAF personnel the opportunity to discuss their personal and professional aspirations with their DO/SNCO.
Equally, the ‘Open Door’ allows Career Managers to advise RAF personnel how Service requirements might affect their personal and professional aspirations ‘Open Door’ discussions, including any recommendations or suggestions for future movement, are not authoritative. Although Career Managers are able to discuss individuals’ aspirations and consider future assignment opportunities, authority is subject to final checks, boarding and approval. To allow Career Managers to give fair access to all the ‘Open Door’ facility should be used sparingly and only when necessary.
Reference: AP3392 Vol 2 Leaflet 1504. Open Door policy"
Good luck. PM if you want - like what trade etc
Your 1st commission RO HAS to assess you for commissioning if you wish.
If he assesses you fit then get yourself off the the AFCO.
There are many people who either don't bother to read the rules or say no for an easy life.
"No you can't sign off as your are not fit - you can apply but we won't forward the application."
He rang his desk officer "Who said that? I decide if you can sign on or not."
I know someone who wanted to cross from Army to RAF. The Army said NO because of the amortisation rule. He checked. He was not leaving Betty's employment so his skills would not be lost. He joined the RAF.
Call their bluff. Tell them to show you the rules. Then get a copy and read them yourself.
This would appear to be one line of approach:
"
Manning - How to contact us:
The Open Door policy allows contact with your Career Manager by telephone between the hours of 1330 and 1630 Mon to Fri.
Career Managers have to meet the current manpower requirement, and plan for the future manpower requirement, by filling positions with suitably qualified and able people whilst taking into account the needs of the individual, be they personal or professional. The ‘Open Door’ facility is an important element in this process as it allows RAF personnel the opportunity to discuss their personal and professional aspirations with their DO/SNCO.
Equally, the ‘Open Door’ allows Career Managers to advise RAF personnel how Service requirements might affect their personal and professional aspirations ‘Open Door’ discussions, including any recommendations or suggestions for future movement, are not authoritative. Although Career Managers are able to discuss individuals’ aspirations and consider future assignment opportunities, authority is subject to final checks, boarding and approval. To allow Career Managers to give fair access to all the ‘Open Door’ facility should be used sparingly and only when necessary.
Reference: AP3392 Vol 2 Leaflet 1504. Open Door policy"
Good luck. PM if you want - like what trade etc
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On the current affairs point, my local station int cell was always happy to provide a wide ranging background brief of what's going on and why to people in your position. Trick was, they had to ask!
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On the current affairs point, my local station int cell was always happy to provide a wide ranging background brief of what's going on and why to people in your position. Trick was, they had to ask!
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Eyesight Standards
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Sorry to pour water on your aspirations but there is no leniency given on eyesight standards at OASC even if you apply from the ranks. It is very black and white and the only possible latitude is shown to re-entrant aircrew who are already trained and have relevant experience to offer; even possibly from other services - even then it is not a given as a matter of course but on a case by case basis. That rule equally applies to other branches that may have eyesight standards suchs as fighter control or ATC. Same rule applies to airman aircrew but might be relaxed for linguists.
Sorry to pour water on your aspirations but there is no leniency given on eyesight standards at OASC even if you apply from the ranks. It is very black and white and the only possible latitude is shown to re-entrant aircrew who are already trained and have relevant experience to offer; even possibly from other services - even then it is not a given as a matter of course but on a case by case basis. That rule equally applies to other branches that may have eyesight standards suchs as fighter control or ATC. Same rule applies to airman aircrew but might be relaxed for linguists.
