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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Old 27th Aug 2013, 11:05
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Yep, that's all there is to it. Nothing too strenuous
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Old 29th Aug 2013, 21:28
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Winged Wombat,

This forum is about answering questions regarding the FSP and ADF pilot applications. It already has some 2500 entries and your self congratulating comments are not helping anyone! Desist and start behaving like future pilots.
Take a chill pill dude. It's the internets... If the people applying want to jump online and find others to be happy with then good luck to them.

I would be interested if you could explain what future pilots behave like?
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Old 1st Sep 2013, 08:56
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RAAF Flight Screening Program (Merged)

Folks,

In my opinion there was nothing much fun about flight screening back when I did it. Treat it for what it is, a 2 week job interview and be thankful
For the opportunity.

While some could argue that it is a taste of what is to come. Pilots course and the job after are much more enjoyable than fsp, although the same can't be said for OTS and comsurv.
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Old 2nd Sep 2013, 04:15
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Slezy9, - "Take a chill pill dude. It's the internets... If the people applying want to jump online and find others to be happy with then good luck to them.
I would be interested if you could explain what future pilots behave like? "


Internets?..........your syntax both astounds me and causes me great concern for the future of gramatically correct communications.


Future Pilots?

In my humble airline pilot opinion, pilots do not engage in self congratulating hubris. CAPT of QF 32 a case in point.
They avoid drinking decafinated soy latte's with low carb marshmallows on the side. If they make a contribution to society or their chosen field of venture, then they will generally not seek a pat on the back or surreptitious recognition for a very ordinary achievement such as finding out what format the recruitment tests take or being the number 564th applicant to be given the nod for the next hurdle of pilot selection this year.

They take advice when needed and ask intelligent and appropriate questions once they've made an effort to understand a system or situation themselves. Whingeing rarely, they are most happy talking aircraft and or subjects related to flying and never ever refer to another as "Dude"!

They are generally comfortable with seeking a solution via their own means before engaging anyone else and detest good old mummy-hug-spoon-feeding.

I anticipate that you will be bewildered by the use of the word surreptitious so have included a definition below for your benefit in pronunciation and definition.

sur·rep·ti·tious (sūrp-tshs)
adj. 1. Obtained, done, or made by clandestine or stealthy means.
2. Acting with or marked by stealth.

So, given that this thread is directed at providing said candidates with genuine and credible information to assist them with their preparations for a pilot application, my comments in a previous post stand as a guide to making the most of the information available in this thread and preventing it degenerating into a gab fest of self interest. There is very limited value in filling it with nonsensical 'facebookese" statements which generate little credibility for the writer and add no further value to the thread.

But thank you for your keen interest in my offerings, I am both grateful and humbled by your interest and trust that my reply has clarified for you, my meaning.

WW

"Nothing worth while was ever gained the easy way"

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Old 5th Sep 2013, 09:55
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Avmed

Well I passed the assessment day and I had sorted out most of the required paper work for submission to PSA, then today the medical department at DFR called to tell me that (now that they have the report from my Dr.) my file has to now be reviewed by Avmed in Adelaide before I can be nominated for an FSP course.

I've searched the medication I'm currently prescribed online regarding Aviation medical, and all I found indicated that it shouldn't be a problem (it's a very minor condition I might add)

Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? Is it something for me to be worried about? What sort of timeframe can i expect an answer? I am pretty worried about it
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Old 5th Sep 2013, 12:16
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WW - You don't half rate yourself, do you?
A more condescending tone I've not heard...

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Old 6th Sep 2013, 05:24
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BJC - I think you're doing all you can at present. If it's AVMED's call, then you're probably just going to have to wait for their answer. Don't be disheartened though, they are in the business of protecting you and the government from things going wrong. Stay upbeat.

JFW - I'm not sure I'd call it condescending. Just wanted to keep the thing on track. Nothing from Sleezy9 and the 'facebookese' seems to have evaporated so I'm hoping I have been successful.
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Old 6th Sep 2013, 07:50
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Originally Posted by BravoJulietCharlie
Well I passed the assessment day and I had sorted out most of the required paper work for submission to PSA, then today the medical department at DFR called to tell me that (now that they have the report from my Dr.) my file has to now be reviewed by Avmed in Adelaide before I can be nominated for an FSP course.

I've searched the medication I'm currently prescribed online regarding Aviation medical, and all I found indicated that it shouldn't be a problem (it's a very minor condition I might add)

Has anyone out there been in a similar situation? Is it something for me to be worried about? What sort of timeframe can i expect an answer? I am pretty worried about it
I'm not sure what condition you have, and I do hope it isn't serious or a barrier to your entry, however I will share with you my experience regarding AVMed and medication. I was given a class 3R (restricted) medical status based partly on the fact that I was experiencing mild reflux and was on medication for it accordingly. Because of this I was required to have an exploratory procedure to fully assess the seriousness of the condition. My understanding from the doctor was that if it was the case that I was required to take medication on an ongoing, indefinite basis, I would be deemed unfit and given a class 4. Fortunately this was not the case, but it would seem that any prescribed medication would have to be temporary and of a "non-recurring" nature. I would also assume that you would be held to the same standard, but having said that I'm obviously not from AVMed so this may not be the whole story in regards to options and rulings.

I hope this helps and that things go well for you!

Cheers

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Old 8th Sep 2013, 01:26
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Hi All,

This thread is an amazing source of information although does digress quite a bit at times. Thanks to all of you who have returned after YOU days, spec testing and FSP/OSBs to report back on what to expect.

I had a query regarding the weight put on previous flying experience. Although I don't have my PPL, I do have some flying hours from my uni degree (aerospace engineering) and have some gliding time booked in the next couple of weeks. I've got my assessment day coming up (assuming I pass spec testing!) and am a little worried that I may get drilled for not having more demonstrated flying experience for someone of my age (26).

Can anyone comment on their experience through the process with little flying experience?
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 12:07
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Originally Posted by krunkworx
Hi All,

This thread is an amazing source of information although does digress quite a bit at times. Thanks to all of you who have returned after YOU days, spec testing and FSP/OSBs to report back on what to expect.

I had a query regarding the weight put on previous flying experience. Although I don't have my PPL, I do have some flying hours from my uni degree (aerospace engineering) and have some gliding time booked in the next couple of weeks. I've got my assessment day coming up (assuming I pass spec testing!) and am a little worried that I may get drilled for not having more demonstrated flying experience for someone of my age (26).

Can anyone comment on their experience through the process with little flying experience?
Flight experience, even if it's only a little, speaks loads towards motivation to fly, and I would bet that you'll get asked about it in your OSB. There was one bloke on my course who had no experience, and his comments were that he wished he had at least some. He said he found it difficult to adapt to the air and get used to/be confident in the aircraft. Everyone is different however; there have been numerous people who have been successful with no flight time, but I think the general recommendation (at least in my experience) is that you get some hours before you go up. A recommendation from personal experience is don't stagger your lessons. Do them all in one go and apply yourself to learn everything you need to for those flights. I found that waiting between flights meant that I was rusty and had to relearn a lot of material that I'd already covered.

Having said this, students are split up into basic, intermediate and advanced categories based on the hours they have and the recency of those hours (<10 hours for the basic course). The syllabus of each of these is progressively more involved and there are fewer flights in the intermediate and advanced categories, which I would assume is supposed to cater to different levels of experience.
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 12:32
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VS,

Thanks for the reply! Interesting point about not staggering flight lessons. Just out of curiosity, did you take your lessons as part of a program? Was it part of a PPL or can you book lessons without having/or working towards a PPL?
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Old 8th Sep 2013, 15:09
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Originally Posted by krunkworx
VS,

Thanks for the reply! Interesting point about not staggering flight lessons. Just out of curiosity, did you take your lessons as part of a program? Was it part of a PPL or can you book lessons without having/or working towards a PPL?
I just went to the flight school and asked to work towards my first solo. I didn't end up making it to solo, but by the first 10 hours I had a basic understanding of basic aircraft manoeuvres. But as I said; I staggered my lessons so I feel as though they were of limited benefit, though the board was satisfied with my motivation.

If for some obscure reason the flying school doesn't like your vague approach, I would imagine that doing the first 10 or so hours towards your GFPT would be a good way to go. Otherwise, I've heard gliding is an excellent way to learn and teaches you good rudder control, which sometimes receives less attention than it deserves from civvy flying instructors
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 02:04
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Yeah, I'm starting to think I should book some powered flights as well. Not sure if gliding counts towards your license and it will surely be handy to know more about powered flight. So Very Sneaky, have you already gone to FSP? Are you currently waiting on an offer or are you already in?

After perusing the forums, it looks like the first test that you do during the spec testing is very strict, I could only find that it had something to do with dials?
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Old 9th Sep 2013, 09:44
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Do some gliding and go solo there first before you do powered flying, once you convert 3-4 flights and you'll be solo there anyway + gliding teaches you much better co-ordination and rudder control. As someone who has gone solo gliding and done a bit of powered flying I can assure you gliding is much more challenging!

Just as a side note, the current Chief of Air Force started gliding and is still involved in the QLD Air Force Cadet gliding scheme - I personally walked him to and from a glider in 2010 when I was there.

With regard to the first test on aircrew testing, its just instrument reading nothing to hard, just be quick and accurate

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Old 9th Sep 2013, 12:58
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Originally Posted by krunkworx
Yeah, I'm starting to think I should book some powered flights as well. Not sure if gliding counts towards your license and it will surely be handy to know more about powered flight. So Very Sneaky, have you already gone to FSP? Are you currently waiting on an offer or are you already in?

After perusing the forums, it looks like the first test that you do during the spec testing is very strict, I could only find that it had something to do with dials?
I was unfortunately not lucky enough to receive an offer after FSP. I've learnt some hard lessons though, so I'll try to remedy my shortcomings and try again in a few years.

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Old 11th Sep 2013, 15:12
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Good luck to all attending flight screening next Saturday !

Would anybody have any idea about when to expect calls for the November/December flight screening?
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 00:47
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There are no courses for December according to their schedule (http://www.airforce.gov.au/docs/FSP-...le-FY13_14.doc) and there is only one course in November for DEO, the rest are ADFA courses.

From talking with people who have gone to FSP you will receive a phone call giving you almost exactly 4 weeks notice. If you don't hear anything by the 3rd of October then you will be looking at a 2014 course.
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Old 12th Sep 2013, 06:42
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Nothing from Sleezy9
True, but perhaps Slezy9 may choose to respond?

Over the years I think you'll find there have been quite a number of "I made it" posts on this thread. Perhaps this isn't in the best traditions of the steely-eyed warrior, but is in the tradition of people excited about their future career and gives encouragement to those still trying.

cheers
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Old 13th Sep 2013, 06:12
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LOL I am actually hoping to get a spot for the ADFA PSA. So, four weeks prior to the dates of the testing. Thanks mate
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Old 14th Sep 2013, 05:07
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For those of you on the waiting list for distribution, I was recently informed by the PSA, when I had called to inquire about it, that the next round of distributions are in November for all three forces.

I'm apparently, right in the middle i.e. average, on the list of candidates. I hope I get selected in November, as my FSP file expires pretty early next year. However, given the low demand and intake numbers, I'm not so sure.

Well, just thought I'll share that info.
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