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Old 29th Jun 2008, 10:17
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Anotherthing.....

Yes you can apply for the badge if you fall between the time scales given on the website.

How do i know, i wrote a nice little email and got a reply from the coordinator, also an attachement of the application form (slightly ammended).

PM if you want a copy of it.
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 01:53
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Good turn up of expat UK Vets in Canberra, Australia.
Chaplain Roland Wort RN tried to explain choice of 27 June for Veteran's Day. Proposition was that Queen Victoria presented the first Victoria Cross on this day way back in the 1860s.
As a visiting Oz vet I was amazed to be seated next to Des Hall who claimed, as I do, to have flown all 3 RAF V bombers. He looks well preserved and mentioned that he once was OC Waddington. We both intend to reminisce by 'opening the hangar doors'.
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 14:26
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thanks for the info - I will put in an application as I think wearing it is one of many ways of showing support for current members
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 16:53
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I have suggested to the VA that the offical courtesy slip has the receipients name on it. This will at least stop people flourishing a piece of paper saying "look, it's official"
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 20:19
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Suez Medal

I dunno Beatriz. Doubt they will ever do a Suez Medal as we were not officially at war with anyone - merely defending ourselves. They awarded the Canal Zoners a GSM (or a new clasp) some years ago, and I got mine. And I am not minded to turn up my toes for a while yet!

For most people life in the Canal Zone was a penance between about 1951 and 55, when the Zone was on Active Service. Living conditions were poor - under canvas for many - families had to live on base in the few quarters that were available. It was a full length tour - none of this 6 months detachment lark - and the wogs got more of us than the Iraqis and Taleban have managed so far. And yet morale on the squadron in which I was privileged to serve was outstanding. I knew an Air Trafficker who did a full tour mostly under canvas at Fayid, went home, and since he was a bachelor, found himself back in the same tent six months later.

There was a campaign medal for Operation MUSKETEER in 56/57, the abortive attempt to reoccupy the zone after Nasser nationalised the Canal, but that was a doddle from the air forces' point of view. I do not believe we lost any more aircraft than we would have in normal training in those days.
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 20:28
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FV, welcome back. I still have a copy of that TS letter sent to you if you want a copy.
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Old 30th Jun 2008, 22:42
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I have 4 years left to serve and at my exit point I, for one will not be applying for, or ever wearing the badge. The pension and gratuity are appreciated but the notion that I am going to advertise my previous employment in this manner is plain daft.

I am not for one minute suggesting that it will make a terrorist target of those that wear them but it will potentially make being in public problematic.

There are plenty of folk out there who do not agree with the military and all that we stand for. There are plenty of folk out there who violently disagree with what we are currently up in both theatres. What are the odds, if out for a quiet drink on some drunken Muppet deciding he's tougher than any "military type" and decides to try and prove it

Sorry but after eventually spending 38 odd years in the service of my country and all the dangers that go with that I look forward to the anonymity that civilian life offers and will not be courting any further grief courtesy of this badge
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 06:31
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SFFP,

I understand your sentiment however you are wrong not to accept your badge. You earnt it, you earnt it many times over.

I agree with you if you do not want to wear it; that is your call. However you must think of the future. Both your future when, 30 years hence, you march on a Remembrance Parade and all the others like yourself have their pin.

You must think of your children, and more likely your grandchildren. They want to know what granddad did. My paternal grandparents died before I was born; it took 50 years to even find out who they were. My maternal grandmother died over a 100 years ago however in her case I have photographs and jewellery; they mean a lot to me and my children. Her husband died over 50 years ago but I still have some of his momentoes - how about Captain - Left back// RA Punjab Football Tournament 1901-1902 K RHA. It weights 2oz, none of your plated non-tarnishing plastic stuff now.

I am a member of a club where possible half have done military service, 2 on carriers, 3 in the RAF and no doubt a few on national service. I have printed forms and will tell them of their entitlement.

Get your pin. All you others out there, get yours too.
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 08:18
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PN,

Thanks for that but I guess we are cut from different cloth. I will look back on my time and have some fantastic memories but the day I leave is the day I leave it all behind me, so marching on Parades etc is simply not going to feature for me.

Mrs SFFP and I will be starting a new adventure which involves travel, moving to warmer climes and a complete change of lifestyle and we will be looking forward, not back.

That aside in amongst all this is the extreme bitterness I feel towards the morally and financially corrupt shower that are the current Labour Govt, their toady civil serpents and our spineless senior management. If they believe that a fitting reward for all the sacrifices that todays service folk make is a poxy badge that you have to ask for and comes through the post................

Gordon Brown can have mine and he can pin it to his rusty sheriffs badge which, for me anyway, is a fitting location for this worthless trinket
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 12:57
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Well, Veterans' Day certainly inspired some GUZZ pikeys;


'Disgraceful' thieves steal three more plaques from memorial

THREE more bronze plaques honouring those who have died in battle for their country have been stolen by callous thieves from the navy memorial on Plymouth’s Hoe.

The Herald reported yesterday that one bronze plaque had been prised from the historic monument, causing outrage among veterans and servicemen.

However The Herald has learnt this morning that three more have been swiped by heartless thieves overnight.

The plaques are thought to have been levered off either late last night or in the early hours of this morning – and they could be sold for scrap.

The first was taken between Sunday night and Monday morning – just hours after the National Veterans Day celebrations.
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Old 1st Jul 2008, 17:39
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That aside in amongst all this is the extreme bitterness I feel towards the morally and financially corrupt shower that are the current Labour Govt, their toady civil serpents and our spineless senior management. If they believe that a fitting reward for all the sacrifices that todays service folk make is a poxy badge that you have to ask for and comes through the post...........
SFFP

I share your sentiments to a large extent. However there is another badge, available only to serving and ex-serving members of the armed forces, which can be obtained by joining the Royal British Legion.

Personally I feel that Veterans Day is a bandwagon jumped on by
the morally and financially corrupt shower that are the current Labour Govt
and that it detracts from Remembrance Day which, itself, shouldn't be all about the ones who didn't make it. It's also about those who nearly made it; the ones damaged mentally and physically to the extent that re-adjustment to civvy street is a constant and sometimes unwinnable battle.

As long as there are people willing to work to help these casualties I'm willing to fund them.

By the way, the Blackpool Gazette, back in January, reported that this weeks' shenanigans would be funded to the the tune of £100k, £25k coming from MoD. I hope it was worthwhile.
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Old 2nd Jul 2008, 12:26
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It is not often that I agree with SFFP, but in this case he does have a very valid point.

The Service Personnel & Veterans Agency send to me each year a newsletter which accompanies my P60 in respect of my Pension. No information has ever been sent in respect of a "Veterans Badge".

As they know my address and my Service Details why do they not just send me a badge with my P60? If I am in receipt of a Forces Pension I must be eligible for the badge; why should I have to apply for it?

How many Ex Service Personnel from Commonwealth Countries who served in the UK Armed Forces are entitled to this badge but have no knowledge of its existance?

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Having checked my 1st log book I see that 39 Years ago I was on "Active Service" in the Caribbean resupplying the British Forces who had retaken Anguilla after its unilateral declaration of Independence. Mind you, the hotel was only 2 star but it did have a pool, it was next to the beach and to the "Jabberwock" Beach Club.
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