Low level fast jets over Silverstone 25/6
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Low level fast jets over Silverstone 25/6
Today (wednesday 25th) around 09:20 we had two fast jets low level across Silverstone circuit. As today is tyre testing the circuit is full of people so wondering if this was official or not?
Well spaced but feeling from some people who were near said it looked dangerous. Anyone know who and why?
Well spaced but feeling from some people who were near said it looked dangerous. Anyone know who and why?
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My point was not that it was dangerous, I am sure the crew know what they are doing, have all eventualities covered and it was 100% safe. My point is that Joe public see it as dangerous and that maybe doesn't help aviation in general.
Just wanted to know what it was and if it was some practice prior to the GP.
My point was not that it was dangerous, I am sure the crew know what they are doing, have all eventualities covered and it was 100% safe. My point is that Joe public see it as dangerous and that maybe doesn't help aviation in general.
Just wanted to know what it was and if it was some practice prior to the GP.
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Fair enough.
Every now and then we get people on board who claim that we were only feet away from peril, and that ATC and TCAS must have been in on it. Not the published 1000'
I used to fly into Turweston and always made a point of flying over Silverstone just to have a gander. Problem always was that everbody else did the same, so on a saturday it resembled a big wing!
Every now and then we get people on board who claim that we were only feet away from peril, and that ATC and TCAS must have been in on it. Not the published 1000'
I used to fly into Turweston and always made a point of flying over Silverstone just to have a gander. Problem always was that everbody else did the same, so on a saturday it resembled a big wing!
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My point is that Joe public see it as dangerous and that maybe doesn't help aviation in general.
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We get lots of trafic across silverstone including a fair number of military ones and the more the merrier I say. They mil ones are often low level and great to watch but because of the huge number of people here today suprised by this one.
And of course there are lots of large obstacles above Silverstone circuit, must be very dangerous to fly in an open sky.
Maybe they were just showing LH that he doesn't actually drive that fast after all, or maybe showing 'Big Fin' support to Kimi Räikkönen.
Maybe they were just showing LH that he doesn't actually drive that fast after all, or maybe showing 'Big Fin' support to Kimi Räikkönen.
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You have to remember that all pilots are experts in steering a stricken aircraft clear of schools, hospitals, homes for the sick and infirm, homes in general, and any large gathering of people 
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Was a NOTAM published warning of the "huge number of people" at Silverstone today? If not (as I suspect) then how would the tonker drivers or indeed any other airman be aware???
Silverstone is always going to be chosen as a turning point or nav check feature for the reasons tonker has already pointed out.
Silverstone is always going to be chosen as a turning point or nav check feature for the reasons tonker has already pointed out.
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Powerless's statement about public perception is a valid one... and answers from the likes of FG Off Max Stout are not exactly helpful.
There have been numerous threads here and on other forums bemoaning the lack of public appreciation and the shoddy treatment our servicemen and women receive compared to days of old.
Whilst probably totally correct regarding the actual safety of the fly past, throw away comments like Max Stouts which belittle members of the public are not the sort of thing that will enhance the perception of the forces.
Silverstone is obviously a high profile place this week - what sort of reaction do you expect to get from ill informed members of the public who are not lucky enough to have flown for the military or even served alongside those who have?
Attitudes like those shown by the minority are one of the reasons why Joe Public does not connect with the Armed Forces today
There have been numerous threads here and on other forums bemoaning the lack of public appreciation and the shoddy treatment our servicemen and women receive compared to days of old.
Whilst probably totally correct regarding the actual safety of the fly past, throw away comments like Max Stouts which belittle members of the public are not the sort of thing that will enhance the perception of the forces.
Silverstone is obviously a high profile place this week - what sort of reaction do you expect to get from ill informed members of the public who are not lucky enough to have flown for the military or even served alongside those who have?
Attitudes like those shown by the minority are one of the reasons why Joe Public does not connect with the Armed Forces today
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You get quite a lot of low flying fast pointy things just south of Northampton
Just a point though, Silverston has an active airfield in it's midst so, unless they had permission to overfly, then it could be dangerous if they caught something taking off.
Just a point though, Silverston has an active airfield in it's midst so, unless they had permission to overfly, then it could be dangerous if they caught something taking off.
Personally as a non-aviator I find it extremely difficult to judge altitudes by eye. The first time I ever walked up to a Tornado on the ground I was expecting it to be vastly larger, more the size of an F-15, so presumably up to that point I had been overestimating.
Much as I assume average aircrew probably wouldn't be much cop at estimating focus distances, one would not expect a cameraman to do a pilot's job or a pilot to do a cameraman's job...
That said there does seem to be a general attitude of "bugger the rules" which is of course fine until someone puts a fast jet through the side of a tower block in a moment of excess.
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Much as I assume average aircrew probably wouldn't be much cop at estimating focus distances, one would not expect a cameraman to do a pilot's job or a pilot to do a cameraman's job...
That said there does seem to be a general attitude of "bugger the rules" which is of course fine until someone puts a fast jet through the side of a tower block in a moment of excess.
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That said there does seem to be a general attitude of "bugger the rules"
I couldn't give a rat's rear end about what's said in a briefing, I'm referring to everyone from Colin Strong and Duff Hart-Davis, through Pablo Mason, right up to this very forum where people winkingly say things like "...at about 250 feet...".
I'm not particularly worried; I expect people to know what they're doing and follow the rules where necessary; that said, if you're going to break the rules, you'd better be very sure you know what you're doing.
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I'm not particularly worried; I expect people to know what they're doing and follow the rules where necessary; that said, if you're going to break the rules, you'd better be very sure you know what you're doing.
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Just a point though, Silverston has an active airfield in it's midst so....