Pilots Target Scottish Homes
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Quoted from article.......
Rob Gibson, Nationalist MSP for the Highlands and Islands, said: Bla... MoD is a blight on our economic lives and on our everyday lives.”
I believe the hounourable gentleman may need to undertake further research on this subject!
Talk about a loose cannon (pun fully intentional)
I believe the hounourable gentleman may need to undertake further research on this subject!
Talk about a loose cannon (pun fully intentional)
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Used to drive a white 7-1/2 tonner in a previous life, and was "attacked" on numerous occasions, on the high moor just south of Otterburn. I felt used, cheapened, abused and voilated by the airforce, because I had to pay attention to the road, and not enjoy watching these guys "straffe" me. Would have loved to have seen the cockpit video from my last encounter with a Jag. Had a few others in other locations in S. Scotland as well. If those greetin faced gits up North don't want you there, why not spend a bit more time in TTA 20 
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The delay in signing a contract for two new aircraft carriers could endanger jobs at Scottish shipyards
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Very happy for you to target my place (though I think that you already do as it's just inside R610A/5 per NATS AIC 17/2008).
57 04 37.3 N
04 57 25.9 W
Or for those without a map
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=G...4hr|PH35%204HR
Very happy for you to tell brass / politicians / busybodys that you have my permission, and happy to put it in writing if you want. And when I build the helipad you might have an additional slow-moving target outside of restricted times or by prior arrangement.
Happy flying
57 04 37.3 N
04 57 25.9 W
Or for those without a map
http://www.multimap.com/maps/?hloc=G...4hr|PH35%204HR
Very happy for you to tell brass / politicians / busybodys that you have my permission, and happy to put it in writing if you want. And when I build the helipad you might have an additional slow-moving target outside of restricted times or by prior arrangement.
Happy flying
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Back in the 80s I use to ride my Kwaka 250c Taunton-Glastonbury mon-sat
Was buzzed many a time by mil choppers. Wearing a crash helmet and the thump of the four stroke Kwaka engine one only heard the chopper when directly above. Still, if it helped, it's ok with me. I gave them two fingers one day, and got two fingers back LOL.
Daz
Footnote:
As the Falklands was in early days, I took employment at RNAS Yeovilton due to past experience of a/c paint spraying. The RNAS were desperate to slap on the marine paint on the Harriers. Long story short, as they say. Met one of the heli crew who buzzed me. Still in touch today.
Was buzzed many a time by mil choppers. Wearing a crash helmet and the thump of the four stroke Kwaka engine one only heard the chopper when directly above. Still, if it helped, it's ok with me. I gave them two fingers one day, and got two fingers back LOL.
Daz
Footnote:
As the Falklands was in early days, I took employment at RNAS Yeovilton due to past experience of a/c paint spraying. The RNAS were desperate to slap on the marine paint on the Harriers. Long story short, as they say. Met one of the heli crew who buzzed me. Still in touch today.
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Happy for you to use my car....I will put a Dayglo X on the roof for you all...
AAAArrrrrr......... listen to that roaring jet sound of freedom...reheat included..
AAAArrrrrr......... listen to that roaring jet sound of freedom...reheat included..
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I remember very well as a five year old being told by an instructor at Linton on Ouse that the RAF used to 'target' the bright yellow British Telecom wagons. At the time I thought he was winding me up...
Twenty years later, whilst on a joy ride in the back seat of an F4, I asked the pilot whether that was true.
It was true
Oh, and a whokka over central London this afternoon. Again.
Twenty years later, whilst on a joy ride in the back seat of an F4, I asked the pilot whether that was true.
It was true
Oh, and a whokka over central London this afternoon. Again.
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Airborn attacks, not just Scotland
Back when my wife & I lived in the UK, not too far from Holt, Norfolk, we had a large
swimming pool in the back garden. Seemed to attract a lot of attention from Harriers,
A10's (dates me I know). Sadly there was never anyone topless in the pool (she says).
Of course just before GW1 our paddock got a lot of attention from large helicopters
and strangely the odd C-130, my wife was more concerned than me that they
might fall out of the sky. Of course I was mostly at work, not home.
Before that in the midlands we seemed to live under a turning point for
a midday Harrier, turning left to head north. So it's not just about Scotland.
I'm an Air force brat so don't mind.
John
swimming pool in the back garden. Seemed to attract a lot of attention from Harriers,
A10's (dates me I know). Sadly there was never anyone topless in the pool (she says).
Of course just before GW1 our paddock got a lot of attention from large helicopters
and strangely the odd C-130, my wife was more concerned than me that they
might fall out of the sky. Of course I was mostly at work, not home.
Before that in the midlands we seemed to live under a turning point for
a midday Harrier, turning left to head north. So it's not just about Scotland.
I'm an Air force brat so don't mind.
John
Mr Gibson should read this report produced for Highlands and Islands Enterprise when the closure or reduction of RAF Kinloss and RAF Lossiemouth were mooted in 2005 This really lays out the economic benefit of the bases to Moray and the wider Highlands area
http://www.hie.co.uk/Moray/assessing...pdf-report.pdf
http://www.hie.co.uk/Moray/assessing...pdf-report.pdf
There's rather a nice old castle not far from Braemar which has had the odd flypast over the years, I gather.
It's the one with the fancy flag....
It's the one with the fancy flag....
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Been "attacked" by a Harrier coming off the wash ranges while resting in a layby and also targetted by a Tornado in Scotland.
If it sharpens the crews senses and helps save lives then I don't care what it does to me, its bloody well worth it.
If it sharpens the crews senses and helps save lives then I don't care what it does to me, its bloody well worth it.
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There, no racial bias on this thread now
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You may wish to contact Mr Gibson. Here's how http://www.theyworkforyou.com/msp/rob_gibson
And NO, I didn't vote for him! Orkney has a LibDem MSP
And NO, I didn't vote for him! Orkney has a LibDem MSP
Back in more enlightened times, even the mighty Bulldog would have fun during 'Civil Defence' training at UASs.
Practising the 'no-radio' convoy direction procedure against an opportunity target was always fun - you had to time your overflight so that the driver could spot you in sufficient time to follow your hard turn up the appropriate road...
So, plan your pass, roar overhead at 'about' 250 ft, then a max rate turn up the road..... We'd practise this once a year just before the CD camp, then take our friendly coppers flying and get them to give the directions. The target vehicle would be the students in the sqn Sherpa, with a scanner tuned to the A/G freq.....at first. You did a few minutes of letting plod talk on the wireless, then simulated RT failure and had a ball! Trouble was, the coppers turned a light green colour after about 5 minutes of 'no RT' playtime!
Best fun I ever had was when the students took plod's wrong turning and ended up in a quiet Cotswold village - we then did the 'no RT' procedure and went whamming down the main road before hanging a left past the village pub to get them back on the right road!
And no-one ever complained!
Ahhh - and as the 'junta' planned the flying programme, we always ensured that there was the chance of a bit of Harry Doggers when the next mate pitched up to relieve you with his copper.... The Boss, CFI and DCFI were carefully planned to be on the ground at this point...
Another bit of RAF fun now gone for ever.
Mind you, Oxford
UAS used to have a task to take the Queen's swan keeper up the Thames every so often, to count the birds on some bit of river. Asked their Boss whether it was fun - he just smiled knowingly and muttered something about "Well, we did have to persuade some of the buggers to come out from under the trees!"
Perhaps you should remind him that just over 65 years ago his namesake was hard at work learning how to fly at a mere 60 ft....at night.
Practising the 'no-radio' convoy direction procedure against an opportunity target was always fun - you had to time your overflight so that the driver could spot you in sufficient time to follow your hard turn up the appropriate road...
So, plan your pass, roar overhead at 'about' 250 ft, then a max rate turn up the road..... We'd practise this once a year just before the CD camp, then take our friendly coppers flying and get them to give the directions. The target vehicle would be the students in the sqn Sherpa, with a scanner tuned to the A/G freq.....at first. You did a few minutes of letting plod talk on the wireless, then simulated RT failure and had a ball! Trouble was, the coppers turned a light green colour after about 5 minutes of 'no RT' playtime!
Best fun I ever had was when the students took plod's wrong turning and ended up in a quiet Cotswold village - we then did the 'no RT' procedure and went whamming down the main road before hanging a left past the village pub to get them back on the right road!
And no-one ever complained!
Ahhh - and as the 'junta' planned the flying programme, we always ensured that there was the chance of a bit of Harry Doggers when the next mate pitched up to relieve you with his copper.... The Boss, CFI and DCFI were carefully planned to be on the ground at this point...
Another bit of RAF fun now gone for ever.
Mind you, Oxford
UAS used to have a task to take the Queen's swan keeper up the Thames every so often, to count the birds on some bit of river. Asked their Boss whether it was fun - he just smiled knowingly and muttered something about "Well, we did have to persuade some of the buggers to come out from under the trees!"
You may wish to contact Mr Gibson.
Rob Lives in Evanton, Easter Ross and enjoys organic gardening, folk music and hill walking with his partner Eleanor Scott MSP.
I suppose the constituent who complained could always paint "Piss-off Biggles" on his roof as a Welsh farmer did on his barn a few years back, but it would probably be counterproductive as the Welshman found to his disgust as once word got around, pilots on flights down the Welsh valleys made a detour to see what was written on his barn roof!
Picture here: http://www.targeta.co.uk/wheretogo.htm
Picture here: http://www.targeta.co.uk/wheretogo.htm