Beached Dolphins
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Hmm, anything to do with the use of Flash off Cornwall by you peeps operating Merlins from Culdrose?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/7446348.stm
"There's a lot of interest in this latest case in Cornwall because there hasn't been a mass stranding of dolphins since the use of sonar," he says. The last major stranding (of pilot whales which are in the same toothed whale group as dolphins) was in 1981. So could it be a rare example of dolphins being disoriented by sonar?
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Crazy Monkey,
Just what are you expecting from said 'post mortem'?! Even if they were related to the legendary Flipper I doubt they can speak from their watery grave and ident the frequency they were accidentally vectored onto !
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Just what are you expecting from said 'post mortem'?! Even if they were related to the legendary Flipper I doubt they can speak from their watery grave and ident the frequency they were accidentally vectored onto !
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thats what they use science for
and they are not in a watery grave - didn't u see them on the news all lined up on the river bank - very sad
experts think that they might all have followed one wounded animal in which put in a distress call.
the other theory was that there was inteference with their radar and the navy had been firing underwater in the area up until sunday evening which has been indicated as a possible cause of inteference
can't be ruled out I suppose.
damn shame though.
and they are not in a watery grave - didn't u see them on the news all lined up on the river bank - very sad
experts think that they might all have followed one wounded animal in which put in a distress call.
the other theory was that there was inteference with their radar and the navy had been firing underwater in the area up until sunday evening which has been indicated as a possible cause of inteference
can't be ruled out I suppose.
damn shame though.
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Waterhorse,
Yes I did see the poor beasts lined up on the bank and a very sad sight it was too. I wasn't trying to make light of their plight or indeed the whole LFA debate, I was simply questioning what on earth a post portem could prove/disprove in the sonar line.
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Yes I did see the poor beasts lined up on the bank and a very sad sight it was too. I wasn't trying to make light of their plight or indeed the whole LFA debate, I was simply questioning what on earth a post portem could prove/disprove in the sonar line.
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post mortem probably couldn't prove a lot - but science is an amazing thing and something has to be done.
my husband upset my daughter earlier when he asked if they could be eaten - so as not to go to waste - didn't go down too well.
needless to say we are not speaking to him either so don't feel too bad!!!!!!!!!
my husband upset my daughter earlier when he asked if they could be eaten - so as not to go to waste - didn't go down too well.
needless to say we are not speaking to him either so don't feel too bad!!!!!!!!!
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Don't get me wrong, this is most probably the direct result of human activity. Possibly military sonar ops. It could also be due to several of the animals having either a virus or some desease that affected their echo location. Maybe wee Flipper was having a tangle with Orca.
It's a shame that the inhumane and pointless bloody slaughter of whales and Dolphins by Japan (and Faroe Islands) doesn't make the headlines as much as this (accidental) event which immediately blames the MOD. Albeit on our shores.
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Don't get me wrong, this is most probably the direct result of human activity. Possibly military sonar ops. It could also be due to several of the animals having either a virus or some desease that affected their echo location. Maybe wee Flipper was having a tangle with Orca.
It's a shame that the inhumane and pointless bloody slaughter of whales and Dolphins by Japan (and Faroe Islands) doesn't make the headlines as much as this (accidental) event which immediately blames the MOD. Albeit on our shores.
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you're right culling of whales, dolphins, seals is sickening
this is just so sad because of the way it happened if u see what I mean
I'm lucky enough to live in an area where u can see dolphins - they are amazing and very smart - but still susceptible to these sort of tragedies which I'm sure were influenced by man's inteference in their world.
you're right culling of whales, dolphins, seals is sickening
this is just so sad because of the way it happened if u see what I mean
I'm lucky enough to live in an area where u can see dolphins - they are amazing and very smart - but still susceptible to these sort of tragedies which I'm sure were influenced by man's inteference in their world.
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AIDU,
My rhyme was purely accidental! As for stuffing whales - rather than you than me amigo, that's a lot of Paxo !
On a more prosaic note - I'm amazed we have not had the 'guard police' vigilantes over to this thread as a result of the comment regarding one of the dolphins's "distress signal"!
Eagle402.
My rhyme was purely accidental! As for stuffing whales - rather than you than me amigo, that's a lot of Paxo !
On a more prosaic note - I'm amazed we have not had the 'guard police' vigilantes over to this thread as a result of the comment regarding one of the dolphins's "distress signal"!
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I'd be surprised if it was the UK MOD because we can't fart these days without written approval; translated, restrictions have been in place on MOD sonar ops for while to prevent this very thing which is about as much as can be said on public forums.
Suffice to say, I actually think that BBC are barking up the wrong tree. My comment was tongue in cheek, but perhaps it touched nerves....
Suffice to say, I actually think that BBC are barking up the wrong tree. My comment was tongue in cheek, but perhaps it touched nerves....
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Post Mortems were done today and revealed nothing. This conclusion was the direct result in the MoD being 'possibly' to blame.
We all know FOST and other exercises take place off the coast of Falmouth and all up the Devon/Cornwall south coastline. It is plausable Sonar or (as said on local TV news) underwater detonations scared the dolphins senseless.
Will be interesting to see the MoD statement tomorrow or sometime this week.
Certainly a sad sight to see...
We all know FOST and other exercises take place off the coast of Falmouth and all up the Devon/Cornwall south coastline. It is plausable Sonar or (as said on local TV news) underwater detonations scared the dolphins senseless.
Will be interesting to see the MoD statement tomorrow or sometime this week.
Certainly a sad sight to see...
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What happened during the second world war when mines and bombs were going off all along the channel coasts? There were apparently more fish and more dolphins then and food was in short supply. Did anyone harvest what must have presumably been a massive catch?
The human mind will take the minutest possibility of a connection and prefer that to a
more logical and simpler solution [Occam's Razor notwithstanding]
Conspiracy theories were ever thus.
The human mind will take the minutest possibility of a connection and prefer that to a
more logical and simpler solution [Occam's Razor notwithstanding]
Conspiracy theories were ever thus.