Nimrod Crew Confirmation
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Not everyone from a single trade can be above average, otherwise the "average" goes up, and everyone is average again!!
That's what average is!! A comparison to others around you.
I'll agree that when compared to non-mil, they may be above average though, if that was your intent.
That's what average is!! A comparison to others around you.
I'll agree that when compared to non-mil, they may be above average though, if that was your intent.
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: GCI
Age: 74
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Gents & Ladies,
Thank you a couple of you are helping me out.
Is it entirly possiable that someone in their early 40s would be put through pilot training and then into the right hand seat of a Nimrod? Then atain A1 within 7 years?
The Air Force list! Does it go back say7-8-10 years would I be able to pick his name out from that long ago?
alfiedsavel
Thank you a couple of you are helping me out.
Is it entirly possiable that someone in their early 40s would be put through pilot training and then into the right hand seat of a Nimrod? Then atain A1 within 7 years?
The Air Force list! Does it go back say7-8-10 years would I be able to pick his name out from that long ago?
alfiedsavel
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
For simple chaps like me, can we summarise as follows? Military aircrew are held in such high esteem that people are minded to disbelieve those that claim to be/ have been one of that group.
Further more, one must now scuttle home from work, or the boozer, and unleash all available IT to ascertain how much of what you've just heard is bona and how much is tripe.
What a strange world we live in.
Further more, one must now scuttle home from work, or the boozer, and unleash all available IT to ascertain how much of what you've just heard is bona and how much is tripe.
What a strange world we live in.
I don't own this space under my name. I should have leased it while I still could
Be trained as a pilot in their early 40s. No.
To become an A1 QFI requires him to undergo the course at Central Flying School. They come out as B2.
They would have to do the Nimrod OCU and arrive on the sqn as a B2 QFI. Within 6-9 months they would be checked as a B1 QFI then as earlier the progression to A1 is long and hard but certainly achievable inside 7 years start to finish.
The CFS A1 Instructor Cat is quite different from the Maritime A-Cat.
The sticking point is the age for pilot training of 26 about 28 on graduation. Maybe there are exceptions.
The AFL goes back 90 years. It is a question of whether your library has a copy. There is also a Retired List. As an economy measure they have stopped printing the AFL. I don't know about the war years. The RAF Club certainly has a set althought whether they would look a nam up for you I do not know - DPA and all that
To become an A1 QFI requires him to undergo the course at Central Flying School. They come out as B2.
They would have to do the Nimrod OCU and arrive on the sqn as a B2 QFI. Within 6-9 months they would be checked as a B1 QFI then as earlier the progression to A1 is long and hard but certainly achievable inside 7 years start to finish.
The CFS A1 Instructor Cat is quite different from the Maritime A-Cat.
The sticking point is the age for pilot training of 26 about 28 on graduation. Maybe there are exceptions.
The AFL goes back 90 years. It is a question of whether your library has a copy. There is also a Retired List. As an economy measure they have stopped printing the AFL. I don't know about the war years. The RAF Club certainly has a set althought whether they would look a nam up for you I do not know - DPA and all that
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK, sometimes!
Age: 74
Posts: 436
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
philrigger, no need to, alfiedsavel has passed the name to me via PM and I can confirm that the guy was indeed Nimrod NCA but never a Nimrod pilot 
I also concur with the others that disagree with Wader2 - a B Cat was not "the norm after 12-18 months on the sqn", it was a hard-earned upgrade that may have taken several years to gain, if you ever gained at all (which many don't).
MadMark!!!
I also concur with the others that disagree with Wader2 - a B Cat was not "the norm after 12-18 months on the sqn", it was a hard-earned upgrade that may have taken several years to gain, if you ever gained at all (which many don't).
MadMark!!!
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Dre's mum's house
Posts: 1,432
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Pontius,
Beg to differ. After graduating as a B2 the pilot would do a tour as a QFI before going back to the OCU.
The pilot woould then be classed as C to I before reconfirming the previous Cat at some point in the future.
The one time I know of someone who went through CFS straight to the Sqn was RR on 8 Sqn Shacks when Beery died and they needed a QFI ASAP.
Beg to differ. After graduating as a B2 the pilot would do a tour as a QFI before going back to the OCU.
The pilot woould then be classed as C to I before reconfirming the previous Cat at some point in the future.
The one time I know of someone who went through CFS straight to the Sqn was RR on 8 Sqn Shacks when Beery died and they needed a QFI ASAP.
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 25
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I'm surprised at the many opinions expressed that the OP should not check. If there is a trade or profession that is held in high regard (which I think military pilot is such), then people falsely claiming it can undermine that regard and respect. Especially if they then spout complete tripe and justify it on the basis of "I know because I am/was..."
Therefore it is in your interests to debunk any false claims because it undermines you all.
As a newbie to this forum, my first post is to disagree with the majority on the thread....
I'll get my coat shall I?-
Therefore it is in your interests to debunk any false claims because it undermines you all.
As a newbie to this forum, my first post is to disagree with the majority on the thread....
I'll get my coat shall I?-
Beg to differ. After graduating as a B2 the pilot would do a tour as a QFI before going back to the OCU.
The pilot woould then be classed as C to I before reconfirming the previous Cat at some point in the future.
The one time I know of someone who went through CFS straight to the Sqn was RR on 8 Sqn Shacks when Beery died and they needed a QFI ASAP.
The pilot woould then be classed as C to I before reconfirming the previous Cat at some point in the future.
The one time I know of someone who went through CFS straight to the Sqn was RR on 8 Sqn Shacks when Beery died and they needed a QFI ASAP.
YS
(Former Nimrod QFI)
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N. Spain
Age: 79
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Well alfiedsavel.............now you know, what do you plan to do with your newfound knowledge? Take him to task in the presence of your colleagues? Drop gentle hints to let him know that you know that he knows that you know etc? Maybe just a little quiet blackmail perhaps?
Good bit of detective work but what does it achieve?
s37
Good bit of detective work but what does it achieve?
s37
Moosemaster,
It was a fairly tongue-in-cheek remark as very often the one-liner in a Squadron Group Standards Report would contain such a line, much to the puzzlement of every other aircrew category on the Squadron.
It was a fairly tongue-in-cheek remark as very often the one-liner in a Squadron Group Standards Report would contain such a line, much to the puzzlement of every other aircrew category on the Squadron.
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: UK
Posts: 1,136
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Is there a graduated scale of previous careers' prestige, upon which is marked a datum; below the datum you accept the chap's word and above which you google him to death to see if he's fibbing?
Do i need to contact the professional bathroom fitters rumour network (Pbfrune) to see if my plumber's the real deal? Should i accept that my neighbour was a teacher once at face value? What if he was just a classroom assistant or something?
When i retire what sort of job should i admit to having done, so as to prevent my colleagues having to investigate me?
Do i need to contact the professional bathroom fitters rumour network (Pbfrune) to see if my plumber's the real deal? Should i accept that my neighbour was a teacher once at face value? What if he was just a classroom assistant or something?
When i retire what sort of job should i admit to having done, so as to prevent my colleagues having to investigate me?
Thread Starter
Join Date: May 2008
Location: GCI
Age: 74
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Ladies & Gents,
I have been told the real deal by two of your fine fold, the answer is this, I will say not a thing to anyone!
I am in a position at work to know what or what not the said person was. Simple as that.
I know that I would not want him or her as a trainer or instructor, or in a position where he can have control over people! In fact he does because he is a Captain in our company!
No I will not oust him I promised one of the people who confirmed the story that I would not do that. I want to, trust me the man or woman has completely lied to me about a number of things including his or her position in the Nimrod fleet his or her conquests and the whole A1 thing which really pisses me off.
His or her cards are marked with me and thats that, I'm just the small guy making sure he or her does not stiff me.
I thank you all very much, I know you are all professionals, I just wish I was half as good as any of you, you are all a credit to your profession.
Cheers and up ya bum
I have been told the real deal by two of your fine fold, the answer is this, I will say not a thing to anyone!
I am in a position at work to know what or what not the said person was. Simple as that.
I know that I would not want him or her as a trainer or instructor, or in a position where he can have control over people! In fact he does because he is a Captain in our company!
No I will not oust him I promised one of the people who confirmed the story that I would not do that. I want to, trust me the man or woman has completely lied to me about a number of things including his or her position in the Nimrod fleet his or her conquests and the whole A1 thing which really pisses me off.
His or her cards are marked with me and thats that, I'm just the small guy making sure he or her does not stiff me.
I thank you all very much, I know you are all professionals, I just wish I was half as good as any of you, you are all a credit to your profession.
Cheers and up ya bum
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: lincs
Posts: 101
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
He's not welsh is he, I know of one rather dodgy boyo who would fit the bill!
er went back to driving trains (if we're thinking of the same boyo)Still it's fun to guess which star from the past might be telling such porkies.....cumon drop some more hints
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: ice station kilo
Posts: 200
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Shadwell, M or N?
If the latter, that's a pint
Saw that man paying for his own cup of tea amongst all us Self Loading Freight at East Midlands last year, still he must be doing well if he has 4 Gold Braid Rings on his Jacket
He wasn’t up front on the aircraft I subsequently got on I’m glad to say.
If the latter, that's a pint
Saw that man paying for his own cup of tea amongst all us Self Loading Freight at East Midlands last year, still he must be doing well if he has 4 Gold Braid Rings on his Jacket
He wasn’t up front on the aircraft I subsequently got on I’m glad to say.