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Old 28th May 2008, 06:47
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RN on the Rocks - Again

The RN seems to have developed a taste for hitting things in the last few years......

HMS Superb nuclear submarine damaged in Red Sea crash

A British nuclear-powered submarine was damaged when it collided with rocks in the Red Sea, the Ministry of Defence has said.

HMS Superb hit an underwater rock on Monday and damaged its sonar equipment, forcing it to surface. None of the crew was hurt and the submarine is watertight, an MoD spokesman said.

Superb, a Swiftsure-class attack submarine with a crew of 112, hit an underwater pinnacle 80 miles south of Suez. The 272-foot vessel had passed through the canal and was in the northern Red Sea when she grounded. No other vessel was involved.

An MoD spokesman said the submarine's nuclear reactor was "completely unaffected" and there was "no environmental impact" from the collision. "There were no casualties and the submarine remains watertight, is safe on the surface and able to operate under her own power," he said.

The vessel is in international waters but unable to dive because of the damage to sonar equipment. The Royal Navy is examining how to return the vessel to port and a full investigation is under way, with a Board of Inquiry to follow. The crew's next of kin are being informed, the MoD said.

Last Friday the Telegraph reported on an official MoD inquiry which found that another nuclear submarine suffered £5 million damage after it crashed into the seabed because officers used tracing paper to plot her course.......
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Tough luck for Super B. Glad to hear that everyone was okay.

Hope they weren't using "tracing paper" for this one. Tracing paper? No computerized navigation system? Doesn't the sonar pick up things like underwater mountains?

I didn't know they were "next of kin" if they were still alive and well. How about "family and friends".
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From http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7422774.stm

"The 272ft attack vessel had passed through the Suez Canal and was in the northern Red Sea, 80 miles south of Suez itself, when she hit an underwater rock pinnacle."

Very likely that the pinnacle was not on the chart - most of them are not. I remember when we were on passage in the Atlantic, just S of the equator. Charts had no detail, and showed a depth of 1000s of fathoms. Suddenly the surveying kit (this was one of HMs survey ships) showed a rapidly reducing depth, which then peaked, fell away slightly, rose again, and then fell away as fast as it had risen to begin with. The profile marked on the recorder was what you would expect of a volcano....
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'bout time they put windows in them...
If they had Gates' products in them they'd crash three times a day, need 1 GB extra RAM every year, last three years max, and be riddled with viruses after a few weeks.

Coat, hat....
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AA,

My version of Vista has not crashed once in the time I have owned it so maybe fitting Gate's products would actually be a good thing as it would solve our Navel assets penchant for crashing
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as it would solve our Navel assets penchant for crashing
Your navel crashes?
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SFFP, my only penchant for navels is when they are pierced or otherwise bejewelled, and attached to a firm, flat, female stomach

What's all this got to do with military aircrew anyway?
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Originally Posted by noregrets

What's all this got to do with military aircrew anyway?
It makes us laugh
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It strikes me that there's more than a little schadenfreude in this thread.
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sh4ttinfreud?? wtf is that. speak English man, you claim to be an exscribbler. Perchance were you thrown out for poor grammar.
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If you think my subtle but never the less deliberate spelling of the word navel is contentious then no doubt the use of the word semen as a descriptor for you chaps in dark blue chaps will cause the odd scowl as well

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Thumbs down

So since when did submarine stories qualify for inclusion on a professional pilots rumour network....
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As was previously said, they make us laugh
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Submariners is just aviators with no sense of direction or levity and a service ceiling of 0ft......
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But, they do boldly go where no man has gone before.

The Final Frontier?

Seriously, the press has reported that Superb is in support of the ground troops in Afghanistan.

How does a Hunter/Killer Submarine do that?

OK, I don't expect a serious reply.

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from the RN Swiftsure class page:
Armament: 5 tubes capable of firing: Spearfish Torpedoes RN Sub Harpoon Missiles Tomahawk Missiles
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Ahhhh, now I understand.

A cunning plan.

Glad they're all OK though.
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Cornish-Stormrider: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schadenfreude
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"Collision avoidance radar "...............

Go on then..............
Was it switched on?
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No, apparently it could blind the pilots so it's left off...................
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