Inoculations during the first Gulf War
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Inoculations during the first Gulf War
I served out in Bahrain during Operation Dessert shield 1990 and was given inoculations on the day of disembarking .
To this day I don’t know what they were.
I recently received a copy of all my medical documentation but there appears to be no record for this time.
As I have recently had treatment for Lymphoma I was advised to find out what these inoculations where but have come up against a brick wall.
Anyone got any clues what they shot in our arms ?
To this day I don’t know what they were.
I recently received a copy of all my medical documentation but there appears to be no record for this time.
As I have recently had treatment for Lymphoma I was advised to find out what these inoculations where but have come up against a brick wall.
Anyone got any clues what they shot in our arms ?
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You need to dig deeper, and not knowing your circumstances, this is going to be speculation. But Pyridostigmine and Swualene to counter chemical and biological agents are possibly going to have been chucked into you. The RBL is continuing to fight for Gulf War folks like you, so they will be the best port of call. It had a Conference about it today.
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/cont...p-513202.shtml
All the very best.
http://www.britishlegion.org.uk/cont...p-513202.shtml
All the very best.
In a former existence, Brian Dixon (he of the amazing Chinook campaign...) was one of the folk whose job included sticking noxious substances into our arms. It was also Brian who offered sage advice when the MoD/RAF sent a signal asking all recipients of these inoculations to return their copies of their documentation for unspecified reasons. Not that it took the nose of a bloodhound to detect something strongly piscine in the request...
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Was out there with the Chinooks and have still got my old jab book...P.M if I can help!
http://www.veterans-uk.com
Not sure if this link is any help, but good luck mate.
http://www.veterans-uk.com
Not sure if this link is any help, but good luck mate.
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Thanks Gents
Thanks for the response Ladies/Gents.
I still have my (old) inoculations card but there is nothing on it for this time.
All I remember of it is queuing up in the movements hangar at Bruggen and getting at least two jabs in my left arm (one straight after the other).
Don't remember any ill effects at the time but when I was diagnosed in December 2004 the hospital carried out a survey on my medical history.
When I Informed them of my service in the first Gulf War alarm bells started ringing and I was told that I wasn't the first Vet they had seen with this type of illness (albeit it a different type of Lymphoma).
As I am still serving I am lead to believe that I cannot take any further action until I leave the service next year (as I haven't been offered further service because of my condition (which is in remission) .
P.S. I didn't take NAPS.
Once again thank you for your responses.
I still have my (old) inoculations card but there is nothing on it for this time.
All I remember of it is queuing up in the movements hangar at Bruggen and getting at least two jabs in my left arm (one straight after the other).
Don't remember any ill effects at the time but when I was diagnosed in December 2004 the hospital carried out a survey on my medical history.
When I Informed them of my service in the first Gulf War alarm bells started ringing and I was told that I wasn't the first Vet they had seen with this type of illness (albeit it a different type of Lymphoma).
As I am still serving I am lead to believe that I cannot take any further action until I leave the service next year (as I haven't been offered further service because of my condition (which is in remission) .
P.S. I didn't take NAPS.
Once again thank you for your responses.
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Backflip,
firstly, good to hear that you are in remission.
Ask the med centre what is written on the back of your med docs (F Med 4), as that was always a place to record innoculations. If you still need to find out what the jabs were, PM me.
Alternatively, you can always use everybody's friend - the Freedom of Information Act. Ask the MoD to supply a copy of innoculations you received prior to deployment. This serves two purposes. Firstly, you could get the list you seek. Alternatively, the MoD will have to acknowledge that they don't know what you were given and that would seriously weaken any defence to a claim you may make.
Have you spoken to these people: http://www.gulfveteransassociation.co.uk/
Good luck
Brian
firstly, good to hear that you are in remission.
Ask the med centre what is written on the back of your med docs (F Med 4), as that was always a place to record innoculations. If you still need to find out what the jabs were, PM me.
Alternatively, you can always use everybody's friend - the Freedom of Information Act. Ask the MoD to supply a copy of innoculations you received prior to deployment. This serves two purposes. Firstly, you could get the list you seek. Alternatively, the MoD will have to acknowledge that they don't know what you were given and that would seriously weaken any defence to a claim you may make.
Have you spoken to these people: http://www.gulfveteransassociation.co.uk/
Good luck
Brian
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I recently received copies of all my Medical & Personnel doc,s via the freedom of information act .
As I say this does not include any information (except the results of a Hearing Conservation Test) for my time at Bruggen or on deployment to the Gulf.
Once again thank you for the contact details
Much appreciated.
As I say this does not include any information (except the results of a Hearing Conservation Test) for my time at Bruggen or on deployment to the Gulf.
Once again thank you for the contact details
Much appreciated.
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Still use my same old jab book from the first gulf war with all the records of what i was given, have to dig it out to look at what i was given. I remember my mate suffering from a huge rash on his back following the jabs, don't know if he ever found out what caused it though.
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gulf war 1 jabs
hi i also still have my old jab book and still use it even today.
even though i have been out of the mob for over 13 years.
ifan help please feel free to pm me .
i had zero ill effects from any of the jabs how ever i did have a bad dose of the ****s even time i took the maps / bats tablets.
even though i have been out of the mob for over 13 years.
ifan help please feel free to pm me .
i had zero ill effects from any of the jabs how ever i did have a bad dose of the ****s even time i took the maps / bats tablets.
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Backflip
Just to add to the earlier comment, the Data Protection Act may be more applicable than FoI.
My GW1 deployment was to Swanton Morley so no jabs required, but I reacted badly to the multiple (unknown) jabs for Deny Flt. I mentioned this when asked if I ever reacted badly when having the jabs for my last deployment. Was told that it was probably the Yellow Fever jab which was "much worse in those days"; not particularly comforting.
All the best
N Joe
Just to add to the earlier comment, the Data Protection Act may be more applicable than FoI.
My GW1 deployment was to Swanton Morley so no jabs required, but I reacted badly to the multiple (unknown) jabs for Deny Flt. I mentioned this when asked if I ever reacted badly when having the jabs for my last deployment. Was told that it was probably the Yellow Fever jab which was "much worse in those days"; not particularly comforting.
All the best
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When I asked what the jabs were, they were embarrassed to admit they didn't know. I flatly refused to have the jabs; even the SMO didn't know and pressure was applied but I stuck to my guns.
By law, you are entitled to examine and have a copy of your medical records. Don't be put off if you are told the law doesn't apply to the Forces - that's been tried and is bullsh*t. If that happens, a solicitor's letter will usually get action...
[Mind you, there's no knowing if that info has been edited out previously]
By law, you are entitled to examine and have a copy of your medical records. Don't be put off if you are told the law doesn't apply to the Forces - that's been tried and is bullsh*t. If that happens, a solicitor's letter will usually get action...
[Mind you, there's no knowing if that info has been edited out previously]
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I was given Anthrax but decided to refuse the Bubonic Plague jab. A good job too as I was really ill for three days after the anthrax jab. One fellow crew member ended up in hospital after deciding to have both of the above jabs in the one day as instructed by senior officers at the time.
Those of us who refused to have both jabs were told that the insurance companies would be made aware in the event of any claim being made!
I believe that the anthrax jab was a "live vaccine" that will "never" be used again.
Those of us who refused to have both jabs were told that the insurance companies would be made aware in the event of any claim being made!
I believe that the anthrax jab was a "live vaccine" that will "never" be used again.
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I believe that the anthrax jab was a "live vaccine" that will "never" be used again.
Some guys went down with pneumonia after that little dose........
Some guys went down with pneumonia after that little dose........
Anthrax, Anthrax, Anthrax...
Hundreds of thousands of wool, cattle and textile workers are inoculated with the Anthrax vaccine every year - sheep shearers sometimes have 2 a year. I've had it a few times and have had no ill effects (no, I'm not a sheep shearer or sh@gger!).
Now having lots of vaccines at the same time, that will potentially really screw you up. But a single Anthrax jab shouldn't, unless you have an allergy to it.
By the way, a mate of mine had the full concoction in Dahran during GW1 - he claims he hasn't had a cold since!
Good luck with your treatment, mate
LJ
Hundreds of thousands of wool, cattle and textile workers are inoculated with the Anthrax vaccine every year - sheep shearers sometimes have 2 a year. I've had it a few times and have had no ill effects (no, I'm not a sheep shearer or sh@gger!).
Now having lots of vaccines at the same time, that will potentially really screw you up. But a single Anthrax jab shouldn't, unless you have an allergy to it.
By the way, a mate of mine had the full concoction in Dahran during GW1 - he claims he hasn't had a cold since!
Good luck with your treatment, mate
LJ
meningitis, typhoid, anthrax, pertussis (whooping cough, which supposedly made the anthrax jab work quicker), cutter - haven't a clue what that was!! DLB comments on some of this stuff in his book 'Storm Command' Hope this helps DH
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The Anthrax jab was given to members of 47 Sqn on a volunteer basis in 2003 for GW2. I refused. A medical presentation was given on the Sqn and the medics did not like the intensity of questioning. Days after the boys deployed to the Gulf Trevor Macdonald did a special on the Anthrax jab. It wasn't considered safe. Could it be you were given Anthrax jab without even knowing?