Kinloss Gate Guard
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You will probably find that one of them said "good evening sir can I see your car pass and ID please".
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Kinloss nearly did have a gate guard, it was to be a Shack T4 edit WB847:B (ex MOTU ) I believe. When I arrived circa 1982 it was still just about extent on the firedump. I will post its serial when I get to see my photos of it.
Apparently it was already to get positioned, change of staish, change of mind,
What should really go on the gate at ISK is the Neptune currently languishing at Cosford. I have been told it is ex RAF, it finished its time with the Cloggy Navy before being donated to Cosford.
Big problem with a gate guard is who looks after them, in the olden days you used to get the local ATC cadets to give them a wash on summer Camp, Mr H&S has seen to that, stations are now not geared up to look after a static, cant even use the jankers brigade (Mr H&S has seen to that as well) and once the get covered in bird cr&p they look a mess, hence they get removed. Had a look at the Tonka at Lossiemouth a couple of months ago, what a mess
Apparently it was already to get positioned, change of staish, change of mind,
What should really go on the gate at ISK is the Neptune currently languishing at Cosford. I have been told it is ex RAF, it finished its time with the Cloggy Navy before being donated to Cosford.
Big problem with a gate guard is who looks after them, in the olden days you used to get the local ATC cadets to give them a wash on summer Camp, Mr H&S has seen to that, stations are now not geared up to look after a static, cant even use the jankers brigade (Mr H&S has seen to that as well) and once the get covered in bird cr&p they look a mess, hence they get removed. Had a look at the Tonka at Lossiemouth a couple of months ago, what a mess
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What would be the cost involved in moving WL795 up from St Mawgan
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2 gate guards - one checking passes and one with a loaded gun - do we need another?
As bluetail says, it was to be the last T4 Shack. Eng Wing and the paint shop did a wonderful job getting it to look almost like new in 1970/71, and proudly rolled it out of the hangar. Unfortunately there was a problem with the lamp standards outside the guardroom (they needed to be removed to allow the aircraft to be towed to the area designated for static) and whilst there had been money put aside for the ac there wasn't any for the other work.
The aircraft was then parked behind (I think) the Sgts Mess whilst the lights were being sorted. Unfortunately it was very light (no fuel/oils/internals etc), not tied down and nobody paid much attention to it - until a really strong wind came along and it went walkabouts and got damaged (I think it put its tail into a building but not sure) and that was the end of the gate guardian. It was then towed over to the fire dump despite the wishes of many at Kinloss.
However, it did have one final use. After a taxiing accident the following year, one of 8 Sqn's aircraft needed a new outer wing, the T4's was found to be in excellent condition and was duly used!
The aircraft was then parked behind (I think) the Sgts Mess whilst the lights were being sorted. Unfortunately it was very light (no fuel/oils/internals etc), not tied down and nobody paid much attention to it - until a really strong wind came along and it went walkabouts and got damaged (I think it put its tail into a building but not sure) and that was the end of the gate guardian. It was then towed over to the fire dump despite the wishes of many at Kinloss.
However, it did have one final use. After a taxiing accident the following year, one of 8 Sqn's aircraft needed a new outer wing, the T4's was found to be in excellent condition and was duly used!
>Have you seen the rather sad gate guard at Benson? A plastic PR Spit with distinct anhedral of the tail plane.<
I'll see your Benson gate guard and raise you the awfully sad plastic Spit outside SHQ at Cosford with major anhedral of the mainplane -- and this on an engineering station too!
And while we're at it, where's Northolt's plastic Polish Spit gone? Looked nice on the corner when the sun was shining.
I'll see your Benson gate guard and raise you the awfully sad plastic Spit outside SHQ at Cosford with major anhedral of the mainplane -- and this on an engineering station too!
And while we're at it, where's Northolt's plastic Polish Spit gone? Looked nice on the corner when the sun was shining.
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The C.A.S. hope to continue to look after WL795 for as long as a RAF presence remains at St, Mawgan. I think that she will be well within the ongoing RAF area on the shrinking base. She has been at the base in the salty Cornish air for approaching twenty years so it might be quite a task to move her elsewhere but everyone locally and especially CAS members are very keen that she should have an ongoing future.
She looks in pretty good order and is cared for on a weekly basis by a small team.
She looks in pretty good order and is cared for on a weekly basis by a small team.
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I remember being one of those cadets cleaning the Vulcan at Gib.
What ever happened to her? I guess the sea air did her no favours.... Anyone got any pics? The blocks for the wheels were still there the last time I visited North Front..
Can remember watching her land.. Am I right in thinking the old Stn Cdr flew it in and retired soon after?
What ever happened to her? I guess the sea air did her no favours.... Anyone got any pics? The blocks for the wheels were still there the last time I visited North Front..
Can remember watching her land.. Am I right in thinking the old Stn Cdr flew it in and retired soon after?
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Well there are three and a half Shackletons rotting away on Cyprus, true the MR.3 might be a little passed it, but the two AEW.2s at Paphos are still not beyond hope.
And the RAF did move them across the airport two years ago, What about a Crash and Smash field trip to save them from the rigours of the Med climate
I don't know what happened to the fuselage section of Dodo but it went out to Cyprus by ship too.
Well Its a nice idea but sadly the £££££ may not help on that
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And the RAF did move them across the airport two years ago, What about a Crash and Smash field trip to save them from the rigours of the Med climate
I don't know what happened to the fuselage section of Dodo but it went out to Cyprus by ship too.
Well Its a nice idea but sadly the £££££ may not help on that
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