Des Browne sacked..
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Des Browne sacked..
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...nlabour115.xml
Shame about Benn. Like his dad, he has conviction and an honesty about him - but he always struck me as punching above his weight and appointed as a nod to the Left.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...nlabour115.xml
Shame about Benn. Like his dad, he has conviction and an honesty about him - but he always struck me as punching above his weight and appointed as a nod to the Left.
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John Hutton being lined up as next SoS for Defence.
One wonders if he too will also have a second department to look after.
One wonders if he too will also have a second department to look after.
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Shame about Benn. Like his dad, he has conviction and an honesty about him
Wasn't Benn the Elder a National Service Meatbox pilot? A fact he went to great lengths to conceal ..... or is the memory playing tricks again?????
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This government are responsible for the wholesale destruction of the UK economy, will cause a recession that will make the 1990's look like a picnic, and hopefully wont be re-elected for a generation.
Brown is currently presiding over a slump of gargantuan proportions, with inflation the likely way in which more cash will be torn from the hands of the electorate.
And he expects a "reshuffle" to sort out the problems?
Dont make me laugh. What he needs is a time machine.
Brown is currently presiding over a slump of gargantuan proportions, with inflation the likely way in which more cash will be torn from the hands of the electorate.
And he expects a "reshuffle" to sort out the problems?
Dont make me laugh. What he needs is a time machine.
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Yes, I believe he was. I don't agree with his politik, but he's one of the few politicians I'd stop what I was doing, to listen to. George Galloway too - a pratt, but he says what he believes and thats it, there's no messing. Whenever I heard the words ".. and Cantona picks up the ball", my eyes would drift over to the TV, because you knew that whatever you thought of him, something alternative, thought provoking or even gem might result.
I know I'm looking back through rose tinted specs, but the biggest leaps in progress that the UK experienced, were when men who had their lives forged in the white heat of Normandy were at the helm. They were full of passion and a drive to effect change.. real change, and change for the better too. And because they had seen life as badly and as ****y as it could be seen, and they were angry men who realised they didn't have a great deal of time on their hands and if you were in the way because you has spent a lifetime sitting on your arse or in committee, then best you move over. Pronto.
They come along every 15-20 years. We're probably still waiting for a junior or middle ranking commander from Iraq to get himself adopted somewhere in the next year or 3.. or someone equally incensed by it all from civvy street.
Yes, I believe he was. I don't agree with his politik, but he's one of the few politicians I'd stop what I was doing, to listen to. George Galloway too - a pratt, but he says what he believes and thats it, there's no messing. Whenever I heard the words ".. and Cantona picks up the ball", my eyes would drift over to the TV, because you knew that whatever you thought of him, something alternative, thought provoking or even gem might result.
I know I'm looking back through rose tinted specs, but the biggest leaps in progress that the UK experienced, were when men who had their lives forged in the white heat of Normandy were at the helm. They were full of passion and a drive to effect change.. real change, and change for the better too. And because they had seen life as badly and as ****y as it could be seen, and they were angry men who realised they didn't have a great deal of time on their hands and if you were in the way because you has spent a lifetime sitting on your arse or in committee, then best you move over. Pronto.
They come along every 15-20 years. We're probably still waiting for a junior or middle ranking commander from Iraq to get himself adopted somewhere in the next year or 3.. or someone equally incensed by it all from civvy street.
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"Hutton's retention in Brown's first cabinet is widely seen as owing to his successful handling of a clutch of contentious policy issues at DWP including major reforms to the pensions system, incapacity benefit and the revamping of Job Centres, which are said to have impressed his longstanding rival Gordon Brown even as they sparred over policy specifics. His inclusion in the Brown cabinet is also seen as symbolic of Brown's intention to run an inclusive government with places for key Blairites, despite Hutton's claim that Brown "would make a ******* awful Prime Minister"
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hutton_(Labour_MP)
Hutton is MP for Barrow & Furness- one can only hope that this gives him a vested interest in shipbuilding and the need for a Defence Industrial Strategy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Hutton_(Labour_MP)
Hutton is MP for Barrow & Furness- one can only hope that this gives him a vested interest in shipbuilding and the need for a Defence Industrial Strategy.
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Now back in 1978 we had Fred Mulley as S of S for Defence. He managed to fall asleep with his head resting on the shoulder of HM the Queen at the 60th Anniversary Review of the RAF at Finningley.
Amazing how the film of that managed to get back to London in time for the 6 PM News Bulletin.
Semper Paratus!!
Amazing how the film of that managed to get back to London in time for the 6 PM News Bulletin.
Semper Paratus!!
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I didn't know about that Cazatou. How he managed to sleep through all this though.. well, he must have been a grunt.
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuf...nn77/fin77.htm
I have a cartoon somewhere of Jim Callaghan handing the phone over to Dennis Healey and the caption reads; "Listen. If you want to disband the Royal Marines, you tell 'em".
http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/oldstuf...nn77/fin77.htm
I have a cartoon somewhere of Jim Callaghan handing the phone over to Dennis Healey and the caption reads; "Listen. If you want to disband the Royal Marines, you tell 'em".
I hope that Mr Hutton, as a Magdellen graduate, has a bit more about him than "Wee Jock Poo-Pong Mcplop" Browne (aka Swiss Des). And hopefully he will use his proven acedemia, surrounded by sound advice, to sort us out...
Meanwhile, have you even visited the Planet LJ...
What we need for SoS is future Tory MP, Al Lockwood. A boozing, no-nonsense, ex-Kiwi with an eye for what really matters (longer runways, colder beer and better women & equipment).
Come on Al get yourself into Parliament soon, we need someone to shake the tree!
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Meanwhile, have you even visited the Planet LJ...
What we need for SoS is future Tory MP, Al Lockwood. A boozing, no-nonsense, ex-Kiwi with an eye for what really matters (longer runways, colder beer and better women & equipment).
Come on Al get yourself into Parliament soon, we need someone to shake the tree!
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According to the daily hate, the PM is a little bit highly strung at the mo...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
I hope he is going to get billed for them.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770
I hope he is going to get billed for them.
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Hutton is MP for Barrow & Furness- one can only hope that this gives him a vested interest in shipbuilding and the need for a Defence Industrial Strategy.
Now back in 1978 we had Fred Mulley as S of S for Defence. He managed to fall asleep with his head resting on the shoulder of HM the Queen at the 60th Anniversary Review of the RAF at Finningley.
At the risk of repeating myself from about a year ago, I was serving at HQSTC then, and for some strange reason I was selected to be the commentator for the Royal Review.
There was some (unbroadcast) film footage of Mulley, sitting between HMTQ and the Duke of Edinburgh. As his chin drops lower, HMTQ's eyebrow rises
imperceptibly, and the Duke gives him a nudge, whereupon Mulley's elbow falls off the armrest and he awakes with a look of some aghastitude (well you would wouldn't you....)
My subsequent 1369 (remember those? - annual conf report) said "This officer puts the Secretary of State for Defence to sleep in the middle of a noisy flying display" Well, that's my story anyway.
And no, I didn't get a Jubilee Medal.
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Des Browne Sacked!
Interesting timing with the Nimrod inquest in May and the likely heavy criticism of Des as a result!
Call me a cynic but it smacks of a situation where he is being moved along voluntarily before being forced to go.
Interesting timing with the Nimrod inquest in May and the likely heavy criticism of Des as a result!
Call me a cynic but it smacks of a situation where he is being moved along voluntarily before being forced to go.
I get the feeling that our beloved prime minister is shuffling the deckchairs on the Titanic. He has no mandate of his own, he arrived tainted by association with Blair and all his doubtful decisions and now he's run out of second rate yes-men to stuff his cabinet. He's a joke, and sadly the joke is on us. The sooner Swiss Des, Gordon and all his discredited cronies go, the happier I'll be.
But I don't talk about politics and would prefer to keep my views to myself. You'll have to read between the lines.
Oh yes, Al Lockwood (mentioned several post ago) would get my vote.
But I don't talk about politics and would prefer to keep my views to myself. You'll have to read between the lines.
Oh yes, Al Lockwood (mentioned several post ago) would get my vote.
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The Gods help us Defence gets Ed Milliband. The bloke looks creepy... The other question of course is whether Brown will want to keep Scotland and Defence combined.
A wildcard may be Buff Hoon getting the Justice Ministry job, and Straw moving to Defence...
Summer reshuffles are always a laugh.
A wildcard may be Buff Hoon getting the Justice Ministry job, and Straw moving to Defence...
Summer reshuffles are always a laugh.
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Allegedly - quote
"This re-shuffle will not affect those who are Scottish, Presbyterian, glum, dour, prudent, miserable and support Red Ken - except of course, my mates in Defence, Community Affairs and others that fail to release policy statements to the Press, prior to the local elections, in contravention of the purdah issued on 10th April - however this re-shuffle is the best since 1997 when blah blah blah - stale -tired - boring - yawn, we replaced the Tory's as Noo Labliar - so the country will feel the benefit - (especially those on benefits -Ho ho!) - There you go! - I do have a sense of humour after all!"
"This re-shuffle will not affect those who are Scottish, Presbyterian, glum, dour, prudent, miserable and support Red Ken - except of course, my mates in Defence, Community Affairs and others that fail to release policy statements to the Press, prior to the local elections, in contravention of the purdah issued on 10th April - however this re-shuffle is the best since 1997 when blah blah blah - stale -tired - boring - yawn, we replaced the Tory's as Noo Labliar - so the country will feel the benefit - (especially those on benefits -Ho ho!) - There you go! - I do have a sense of humour after all!"