Swooping RAF Pilot Fined
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If you had served in the 'Military' (Irish by the look of it, therefore not proper mil) you would know that all rules are merely advisory for British Officers, be they speed limits in the USA or a Post Office queue in Bombay.
"Stand back! British Officer coming through!" is my loud and happily bellowed refrain, be it the Tescos checkout queue or a crowded pub bar.
If you had served in the 'Military' (Irish by the look of it, therefore not proper mil) you would know that all rules are merely advisory for British Officers, be they speed limits in the USA or a Post Office queue in Bombay.
"Stand back! British Officer coming through!" is my loud and happily bellowed refrain, be it the Tescos checkout queue or a crowded pub bar.
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Lower than 1,000', hey.
How much lower? 950'? Seems a bit harsh if that was the case.
And what's all this about a 500' rule??????
The open flat 'expanses' of Oxfordshire and surrounding counties are great for teaching PFLs, right down to cow level. How else are you going to convince students that they actually can get into that field and that it is bigger than than they realise until you get right down to the tops of the hedgerows (last second intrusions by power lines permitting!!).
As for officers being greater than civvies, I couldn't agree more so long as you remember you've got your SNCOs to help you along! 
How much lower? 950'? Seems a bit harsh if that was the case.
And what's all this about a 500' rule??????
The open flat 'expanses' of Oxfordshire and surrounding counties are great for teaching PFLs, right down to cow level. How else are you going to convince students that they actually can get into that field and that it is bigger than than they realise until you get right down to the tops of the hedgerows (last second intrusions by power lines permitting!!).As for officers being greater than civvies, I couldn't agree more so long as you remember you've got your SNCOs to help you along!
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Everyone knows that in the wake of a wild-eyed loony shouting, 'British officer coming through!' there is a smart, lean, worldly-wise individual called a SNCO.
Only made in the British Isles, they are quietly and efficiently responsible for smoothing over diplomatic gaffes and ensuring the fixing of furniture broken by aforementioned wild-eyed loony.
I should bloody well know. They looked after me for 18 years. Without them, I would have been incapable of putting my flying suit on the right way round. Let alone find the entrance to the helicopter I was supposed to fly.
"This looks a little dicey Sergeant. The number 5 iron please."
"I think the GPMG is better suited to this situation sir."
"Righty ho. You carry on. I haven't done the course, dontcha know."
"Er, yes sir"
Gentlemen, I thank and salute you.
Only made in the British Isles, they are quietly and efficiently responsible for smoothing over diplomatic gaffes and ensuring the fixing of furniture broken by aforementioned wild-eyed loony.
I should bloody well know. They looked after me for 18 years. Without them, I would have been incapable of putting my flying suit on the right way round. Let alone find the entrance to the helicopter I was supposed to fly.
"This looks a little dicey Sergeant. The number 5 iron please."
"I think the GPMG is better suited to this situation sir."
"Righty ho. You carry on. I haven't done the course, dontcha know."
"Er, yes sir"
Gentlemen, I thank and salute you.
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Fantastic thread !!!!
Good work Rodders, at least you gave the thought police something to do.
Tried the British officer routine once in San Diego, got lots of strange looks - did not get to the front of the line to order more drinks though
Good work Rodders, at least you gave the thought police something to do.
Tried the British officer routine once in San Diego, got lots of strange looks - did not get to the front of the line to order more drinks though
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Some parts of the world don't have sufficient language skills to understand that a British officer is needing to conduct Empire business.
The answer is to say it again louder. Unless you're in Burma where a theatrical stage wink followed by a tiger impression will suffice.
Sadly, in some parts of the world (USA does in fact spring to mind), the locals will actually be obstructive upon discovering you are B.O.
No other option but the Riot Act.
"Disperse now, or we will open fire!"
This will invariably prompt the aforementioned SNCO into action to head off another major diplomatic incident.
The answer is to say it again louder. Unless you're in Burma where a theatrical stage wink followed by a tiger impression will suffice.
Sadly, in some parts of the world (USA does in fact spring to mind), the locals will actually be obstructive upon discovering you are B.O.
No other option but the Riot Act.
"Disperse now, or we will open fire!"
This will invariably prompt the aforementioned SNCO into action to head off another major diplomatic incident.
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"the prevailing "wisdom" on this thread is that he should be allowed to get off with it??!! "
by who?
are you reading the same thread as me?
all i've seen in one comment on the accuracy of GPS
would you like some polish for that chip on your shoulder?
"Disperse now, or we will open fire!"
probably not the smartest thing to say in the U.S. given the amount of firepower carried by the average member of the population!
by who?
are you reading the same thread as me?
all i've seen in one comment on the accuracy of GPS
would you like some polish for that chip on your shoulder?
"Disperse now, or we will open fire!"
probably not the smartest thing to say in the U.S. given the amount of firepower carried by the average member of the population!
"smart, lean, worldly-wise individual called a SNCO. "
smart?.... yes, sometimes,.......worldy-wise?......always....lean?..............................
kABOOoooOOM!!!!
..........SIZE OF A CHIEF TECH!!!
smart?.... yes, sometimes,.......worldy-wise?......always....lean?..............................
kABOOoooOOM!!!!
..........SIZE OF A CHIEF TECH!!!
Personally I think Rodders should be shot for he has committed one of the worst crimes this country has ever seen. All of us commenting will definately never have done something a bit silly when flying. For we are all angels and perfect in every way.
Infact, I see Rodders has recieved more of a punishment than one of Englands' finest fellows, who killed a child whilst driving without insurance or licence, and who didn't stop even after running the boy down.
But after all, we are quite easy to prosecute in the RAF and our hierachy does not look after us in any way. We are so quick to condemn a man for flying at 500'.
Did anyone die?
Infact, I see Rodders has recieved more of a punishment than one of Englands' finest fellows, who killed a child whilst driving without insurance or licence, and who didn't stop even after running the boy down.
But after all, we are quite easy to prosecute in the RAF and our hierachy does not look after us in any way. We are so quick to condemn a man for flying at 500'.
Did anyone die?
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I'm talking SH.
OK. There were a few bloaters.
I refer to the archetypal SNCO.
Without blowing sunshine out of their pants.
They are the men who look after junior officers who have to lead men older than them into situations that will involve danger to all concerned.
They do this because despite the fact that they have more experience than the junior officer, they appreciate the fact that the baby-face in front of them has gone through a certain selection phase. This selection phase is supposed to ensure that said sergeant and his subordinates will not die as a result of baby-face being an arse.
The purpose of the military is to kill and destroy. This is what the military do. And only when a democratically elected government say so.
Unless you live elsewhere.
If you do not, God bless.
OK. There were a few bloaters.
I refer to the archetypal SNCO.
Without blowing sunshine out of their pants.
They are the men who look after junior officers who have to lead men older than them into situations that will involve danger to all concerned.
They do this because despite the fact that they have more experience than the junior officer, they appreciate the fact that the baby-face in front of them has gone through a certain selection phase. This selection phase is supposed to ensure that said sergeant and his subordinates will not die as a result of baby-face being an arse.
The purpose of the military is to kill and destroy. This is what the military do. And only when a democratically elected government say so.
Unless you live elsewhere.
If you do not, God bless.
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Whilst I am loving the comedic aspect of this thread, I feel there are more pressing issues at its heart:
- OK, so Rodders was inexperienced on type, but exactly how much training is given on the various aspects of the ANO at CFS?
In fact, I'm led to believe that Tutor units are no longer even mandated to hold the ANO, the very document that Rodders was in contradiction to during this incident.
We are getting more and more PFIs - Tutor, Firefly, King Air and even soon (allegedly!) FSTA, but the training is still delivered by the old and bold who have never worked under or lived by such rules.
Perhaps this case shows that if we are as professional as is claimed on this thread, then it may be time to wake up and smell the roses...the CAA have a duty of care too, you know!
Pin pulled, running bravely away,
Uncle G
- OK, so Rodders was inexperienced on type, but exactly how much training is given on the various aspects of the ANO at CFS?
In fact, I'm led to believe that Tutor units are no longer even mandated to hold the ANO, the very document that Rodders was in contradiction to during this incident.
We are getting more and more PFIs - Tutor, Firefly, King Air and even soon (allegedly!) FSTA, but the training is still delivered by the old and bold who have never worked under or lived by such rules.
Perhaps this case shows that if we are as professional as is claimed on this thread, then it may be time to wake up and smell the roses...the CAA have a duty of care too, you know!
Pin pulled, running bravely away,
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Apparently many moons ago a Canberra crew decided to have a look at a mate who was skiing at Kitzbuhel. They really enjoyed flying up the piste a couple of times at an impressively low level. Unfortunately the mate was taking part in the RAF Skiing Championships and the top brass were out in force and saw the whole (flying) show. Can't remember what happened to the crew......
