Typhoon "Blue Note"
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The hunter must rate as one of the most beautifull jets ever made.
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What about the Javelin's note when taxiing? I was at RAF Benson in 60/61 and a few were ferried out to the Far East I think. The hoover sound and the mismatch between the engines produced some really weird resonances. Don't suppose anyone has any sounds of the beast anywhere?
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Sound of the only tail to rival the Tonka!
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>A blue note is a flattened or sharpened note in a chord, giving it that jazzy or bluesy sound. Can be a fifth, seventh, ninth or thirteenth above the tonic, if you want to get really technical<.
True, but the Hunter doesn't generate a "blue" note in the musicological sense. It's more of a descending tritone (if you're old enough, think of the sound of a passing Vanguard for an aviation equivalent) with a bit of added harmony. Known since the fourteenth century as diabolus in musica and a staple of heavy metal amongst much else.
True, but the Hunter doesn't generate a "blue" note in the musicological sense. It's more of a descending tritone (if you're old enough, think of the sound of a passing Vanguard for an aviation equivalent) with a bit of added harmony. Known since the fourteenth century as diabolus in musica and a staple of heavy metal amongst much else.
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Wingswinger, I'll trade your rattly Merlin noise(British valves, FFS) for the note emitted by the supercharger of Black 6's Daimler-Benz 605, any day.
apart from that, what musical sound would correspond to the noise emitted by today's CFM56 fans?
regards
TDD
Wingswinger, I'll trade your rattly Merlin noise(British valves, FFS) for the note emitted by the supercharger of Black 6's Daimler-Benz 605, any day.
apart from that, what musical sound would correspond to the noise emitted by today's CFM56 fans?
regards
TDD
>The Vulcan, was that famous Vulcan howl a blue note.<
Not in the musical sense. By ear, the harmonic structure is mostly built up from minor thirds and fifths, and at higher power settings it becomes a dominant minor ninth with added eleventh. The fifth becomes a sharp fourth at high power settings; that's the bit that raises the hairs on the back of your neck. The intake resonance adds various sub-octaves and their harmonics to the mixture.
The chord at the beginning of the Beatles' "Hard Day's Night" is a rough approximation to the underlying harmony.
Not in the musical sense. By ear, the harmonic structure is mostly built up from minor thirds and fifths, and at higher power settings it becomes a dominant minor ninth with added eleventh. The fifth becomes a sharp fourth at high power settings; that's the bit that raises the hairs on the back of your neck. The intake resonance adds various sub-octaves and their harmonics to the mixture.
The chord at the beginning of the Beatles' "Hard Day's Night" is a rough approximation to the underlying harmony.
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The Vampire was known amongst the Meatbox fraternity as the "screaming kiddy-car". I would not have described its emission as a "howl".
The Spitfire and the Hunter have been described, quite rightly, as "ladies' aeroplanes". The Meatbox was a true "gents' aeroplane". It needed a bit more brute force than the average lady could deliver.
The Spitfire and the Hunter have been described, quite rightly, as "ladies' aeroplanes". The Meatbox was a true "gents' aeroplane". It needed a bit more brute force than the average lady could deliver.
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Had the best of "both worlds" the other week!.....Living just to the north of the approach to Northolt,we were treated at lunchtime to the "Reds" plus a 4 ship of Typhoons going east-west.........Then for the evening we had the spectacle of a spitfire holding above us,prior to a flypast at Hendon,then just as that had dissapeared the sky behind our house was filled with a formation of Typhoons going to Hendon as well. Pity every day can't be like that!!.
To all those involved on the day,"nice flying boys",(and girls??),..very much appreciated ,especially the Typhoons in the evening...superb sound,super tight formation!!
To all those involved on the day,"nice flying boys",(and girls??),..very much appreciated ,especially the Typhoons in the evening...superb sound,super tight formation!!
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Not in the musical sense. By ear, the harmonic structure is mostly built up from minor thirds and fifths, and at higher power settings it becomes a dominant minor ninth with added eleventh. The fifth becomes a sharp fourth at high power settings; that's the bit that raises the hairs on the back of your neck. The intake resonance adds various sub-octaves and their harmonics to the mixture.
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Not in the musical sense. By ear, the harmonic structure is mostly built up from minor thirds and fifths, and at higher power settings it becomes a dominant minor ninth with added eleventh. The fifth becomes a sharp fourth at high power settings; that's the bit that raises the hairs on the back of your neck. The intake resonance adds various sub-octaves and their harmonics to the mixture.
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Showing my age, but I do miss the raw sound of a couple of Avons or Speys doing a low-level air display. I grew up near the Bristol Channel to a soundtrack of Sea Vixens and Scimitars using the ranges off Doniford, and the occasional high level Gannet - there was a distinctive sound!. The noisiest displays I remember were by 'Fred's Five' at Yeovilton Air Days - ten Avons at full chat, flying VERY low directly overhead before a 'bomb-burst'. I enjoyed many lively Phantom and Buccaneer displays in later years, but those Sea Vixens certainly made an impression.
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Have to contradict you on hunter blue note, we had a MK9 at a large airfield in wiltshire that would do a lovely blue note with no cartridge ejector chutes or sabrinas fitted, but gun ports were open. Both MK 6's we had wouldnt do it as the gun ports were faired over . Seem to rember it was a fairly narrow speed band to produce the optimum note !!
Have to contradict you on hunter blue note, we had a MK9 at a large airfield in wiltshire that would do a lovely blue note with no cartridge ejector chutes or sabrinas fitted, but gun ports were open. Both MK 6's we had wouldnt do it as the gun ports were faired over . Seem to rember it was a fairly narrow speed band to produce the optimum note !!
Typhoon Blue Note
Correct me if I'm wrong, (not worth saying, really), but I believe, from many years of observation, only the twin seater Typhoon produces a 'blue note', and only production ones at that. Heard it first when RAF Warton became operational. A marvelous sound.