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No real news I am afraid as it remains on the cutting room floor along with a whole host of other unaffordable projects that the MOD are struggling with.
I refer to other posts and threads that discuss the PR08 round and would not be surprised to hear very little until after some local elections due very soon.
I refer to other posts and threads that discuss the PR08 round and would not be surprised to hear very little until after some local elections due very soon.
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The Lynx IPT knows no more than anyone else other than what has been published in the media. Decision one way or another has been expected for some time now but is constantly delayed. If cut, the Lynx will still need replacing as airframes are becoming lifex with increasing regularity.
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Modern,
This might answer some of your questions:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/future-lynx/
Tinker
This might answer some of your questions:
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/future-lynx/
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Hey John, took me a while to realise that was meant for me.
Have you a place in your office for me, need some sunshine?
The family are all fine and I hope yours are too.
As for Future Lynx, who knows what's going on as I havent a clue and I work in the project?
T
Have you a place in your office for me, need some sunshine?
The family are all fine and I hope yours are too.
As for Future Lynx, who knows what's going on as I havent a clue and I work in the project?
T
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TT, scoured the link but couldn't see anything in the requirements about Des Browne realizing how he could claw back 270 million quid for the Treasury if he cans FLynx. That number "allegedly" being the price that our chums in Garadors want to close the "production" line.
PS. Will FLynx have the same Westland marinisation kit as all the others, the one that coats everything aft of the transportation joint in OX-38 and everything below the Gearbox with OEP-215?
PS. Will FLynx have the same Westland marinisation kit as all the others, the one that coats everything aft of the transportation joint in OX-38 and everything below the Gearbox with OEP-215?
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Is this future Lynx ?
This is Future Lynx
http://www.army-technology.com/projects/future-lynx/
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Just a few Questions...
How many helicopters are the 70 Future Lynx replacing overall? Is it the same situation like FSTA where less aircraft are procured to replace an existing numerical superior amount?
Also what other airframes did the MoD look at other than Future Lynx for contenders or was it Future Lynx from the start?
I see the USAF have bought the EC-635/EC-135 along with other European Countries to provide training, light utility/reconnaissance and light battlefield attack capability to replace the older Kiowa and Gazelles.
Which contenders have the MoD looked at in replacing the many Gazelles which are being mothballed now? Or is this the job of existing Lynx AH7s?
How many helicopters are the 70 Future Lynx replacing overall? Is it the same situation like FSTA where less aircraft are procured to replace an existing numerical superior amount?
Also what other airframes did the MoD look at other than Future Lynx for contenders or was it Future Lynx from the start?
I see the USAF have bought the EC-635/EC-135 along with other European Countries to provide training, light utility/reconnaissance and light battlefield attack capability to replace the older Kiowa and Gazelles.
Which contenders have the MoD looked at in replacing the many Gazelles which are being mothballed now? Or is this the job of existing Lynx AH7s?
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Both the Army and Royal Navy Future Lynx variants are able to visually detect targets."
Is this AW speak for cabin and cockpit windows?
Is this AW speak for cabin and cockpit windows?
Razor,
The Flynx numbers are purely based on what was considered affordable at the time. In terms of capability, the Green Flynx will provide little if any extra lift where it currently matters, but will tote a significantly better sensor / comms fit. Unfortunately for the Flynx, much of its "find" role has been superceded by UOR purchases of UAVs and other assets, and by upgrades to the Apache. So, why buy it at all? Err, well, umm. That's the problem that Green Flynx has at the moment. It can't contribute lift (unless moving a Colonel and his Spaniel counts...), it's find role is done by other, cheaper, platforms and that leaves....not a lot really, apart from some very niche roles (that could be filled by using other platforms slightly out of role), maintaining the AAC force structure and jobs at AW.
Blue Flynx, unfortunately, will suffer on affordability grounds if Green Flynx is cancelled.
I sincerely hope that Flynx does survive; we need all the helicopters we can get at the moment - regardless of their shortcomings. As to the issue of better platforms for the money, IIRC Flynx was a single source procurement in the style of the Hawk 128s and no meaningful competition was held. IMHO if we were discussing binning a more capable platform such as Blackhawk, Super Cougar, AW149 or NH90 I doubt it would have run into such troubled water.
The Flynx numbers are purely based on what was considered affordable at the time. In terms of capability, the Green Flynx will provide little if any extra lift where it currently matters, but will tote a significantly better sensor / comms fit. Unfortunately for the Flynx, much of its "find" role has been superceded by UOR purchases of UAVs and other assets, and by upgrades to the Apache. So, why buy it at all? Err, well, umm. That's the problem that Green Flynx has at the moment. It can't contribute lift (unless moving a Colonel and his Spaniel counts...), it's find role is done by other, cheaper, platforms and that leaves....not a lot really, apart from some very niche roles (that could be filled by using other platforms slightly out of role), maintaining the AAC force structure and jobs at AW.
Blue Flynx, unfortunately, will suffer on affordability grounds if Green Flynx is cancelled.
I sincerely hope that Flynx does survive; we need all the helicopters we can get at the moment - regardless of their shortcomings. As to the issue of better platforms for the money, IIRC Flynx was a single source procurement in the style of the Hawk 128s and no meaningful competition was held. IMHO if we were discussing binning a more capable platform such as Blackhawk, Super Cougar, AW149 or NH90 I doubt it would have run into such troubled water.
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Evalu8ter,
Re "and no meaningful competition was held. "
I beg to differ, a meaningful competition was indeed held. IIRC, the platforms considered for the Find element were:-
Lynx Mk9 CSP, Super Lynx 300, Future Lynx, Apache, MELB, OH-58KW,
AS355N, EC635, EC145, A109 Power, A149, S-76C, NH-90, SH-60R.
Re "and no meaningful competition was held. "
I beg to differ, a meaningful competition was indeed held. IIRC, the platforms considered for the Find element were:-
Lynx Mk9 CSP, Super Lynx 300, Future Lynx, Apache, MELB, OH-58KW,
AS355N, EC635, EC145, A109 Power, A149, S-76C, NH-90, SH-60R.