Reds in 10 years time?
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It strikes me that running a free-standing, non-operational display team is a peace-time luxury that we can't afford any more. I realise that the Reds are not, in the big order of things, hugely expensive, but I'm still unclear why the RAF can run a display team, and not the Royal Navy or the Army.
The idea that some of our most talented pilots get rewarded with two years away from the front line seems to be a kick in the face for the SH and AT lads/lasses who are working very hard without enough resources.
Admittedly the Army have the Household Division, but they get to go to sandy/rocky places in between their ceremonial duties in London/Windsor.
The idea that some of our most talented pilots get rewarded with two years away from the front line seems to be a kick in the face for the SH and AT lads/lasses who are working very hard without enough resources.
Admittedly the Army have the Household Division, but they get to go to sandy/rocky places in between their ceremonial duties in London/Windsor.
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Perhaps in that case the Reds can mount a gun pod and a couple of cannisters of napalm to each airframe and provide formation CAS in Afganistan.
Or just provide a distraction to the Taleban. The Reds can fly over and perform their display, Terry Taleban stands up craneing his neck in wonder to see it all, our lads slot them like Figure 11's.....The Meercat effect.
Perhaps in that case the Reds can mount a gun pod and a couple of cannisters of napalm to each airframe and provide formation CAS in Afganistan.
Or just provide a distraction to the Taleban. The Reds can fly over and perform their display, Terry Taleban stands up craneing his neck in wonder to see it all, our lads slot them like Figure 11's.....The Meercat effect.
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AA,
I know that they are neither as impressive (noise, speed etc) as the Reds nor do they have such disappointing chat, but the Army and Navy do have display teams, namely the Blue Eagles and Black Cats, respectively.
I must say that last year's Eagles didplay is the best I have seen, too!!
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AHV
I know that they are neither as impressive (noise, speed etc) as the Reds nor do they have such disappointing chat, but the Army and Navy do have display teams, namely the Blue Eagles and Black Cats, respectively.
I must say that last year's Eagles didplay is the best I have seen, too!!
Regards,
AHV
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AH V - the difference being though that the teams you mention operate as a secondary duty for guys who have a full-time job.
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I say keep the Reds. They are largely paid for by sponsorship, so the money couldn't be used elsewhere anyway, and they have a significant and measurable effect on recruitment and public image.
I do like the idea of a Typhoon team though...
PS - much respect to the Blue Eagles - great display!
I do like the idea of a Typhoon team though...
PS - much respect to the Blue Eagles - great display!
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Isn't the lions share of the expense of operating the Red Arrows covered by sponsorship by private companies?
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Hawk, AJT's 'loaned' by BAE Systems, because the Red's are still the best advert they've ever had!!! (IMHO!!!)
It's ok all you boys and girls going on about scrapping the Reds but I'm sure you'd all put your name to the on line petition to keep them, if such a petition ever arose... because when you have the likes of the Americans, the French, Italians and Spanish, to name but a few flying their own national display team, do you think it would be a crying shame if we were just sat on the side lines watching?
It's ok all you boys and girls going on about scrapping the Reds but I'm sure you'd all put your name to the on line petition to keep them, if such a petition ever arose... because when you have the likes of the Americans, the French, Italians and Spanish, to name but a few flying their own national display team, do you think it would be a crying shame if we were just sat on the side lines watching?
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Hawks or something else???
thanks grob driver for an attempt to answer what the team might be flying in 10 years - some severe thread drift has occurred!!!
What is the projected life of hawk?
What is the projected life of hawk?
If I was a betting man I might put some money on modification of 2010 standard airframes from Valley to RAFAT standard thus extending the life for a further 10 years or so.
