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Old 1st Mar 2008, 06:44
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sweepstake on Harrys flight home

Ladbrookes currently showing good odds that less than 3 days from AFG to Brize.

Rules are: from check-in to arrival at Brize, to the nearest hour.

Odds better if you also can predict
1. Where in UK flt ends up
2. Where it goes ti*s up
3. where his bags end up

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Makes me laugh, there must be some better way of getting our guys back home from that place......
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Got any ideas hudjunkie?

BTW, you didn't look 89 the last time I saw you!
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HD Junkie

So what better way would you suggest then??
We dont have startrek tech allowing matter transporters yet!
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He's back
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Now, see, as an uninformed civvy, my reaction is "Three days? Why on the flat earth should it take three days?"

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My old boss used to say "give me solutions not your problems." So I must say I am guilty of not being perfect on this one.....

I do know that the guys and gals on 216 do a sterling job with the equipment they have, but thats just it.... the equipment they have. The Trimotor is a legacy aircraft and it can take a month and a day for the spares system to provide essentials. Like so many others I have waited for a tri* to become servicable whilst sitting in Akro or somewhere slightly better further east. Obviously the likes of Omni can only get us so far towards Theatre without a DAS, but it is a sad reflection that lack of investment in our AT fleets means it is more often than not a trip frought with delays. It needs either a massive investment in our AT fleets..... yeah right, or a Charter service that can go all the way..
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why would it take 3 days???

Of course the MOD has aircraft just sat around waiting to bring people home at the drop of a hat.
get a grip
The bloke was "in country" so had to get him out of there, then to a suitable air head to get the flight back and that all takes time, thats before taking in to account the flight time home, have a think mate its not as if he is walking in to LHR and buying a ticket on BA!!!!!!

Some good coverage for Brize and 216 Sqn, a couple of hrs late on the schedule time pretty good, its called flexibilty!!! Think the BBC put the late arrival down to Aeromed.
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Old 1st Mar 2008, 11:55
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Think Prince C has just said that the flight had to re route for the aeromed as well, that sort of throws the schedule out the window, s 3 days from deciding him coming home to be back at Brize is pretty good as he used the normal system and did not get a special laid on!!!
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a charter service that can go all the way
is highly unlikely unless the threat reduces and the requirement for DAS is dropped. To get that stuff fitted and certificated on a commercial aircraft would cost a fortune. On top of that the airline's insurance company would probably say no, together with the crews and their unions.
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is highly unlikely unless the threat reduces and the requirement for DAS is dropped. To get that stuff fitted and certificated on a commercial aircraft would cost a fortune. On top of that the airline's insurance company would probably say no, together with the crews and their unions.
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I agree Brain. I don't make predictions and I never will, but I just can't see that ever happening!
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ah well of course charter jets are never late and never break down!!!!!!!!
Talk to all the folk that go on there hols with some of the charter companies and spend there time sitting around waiting for a late jet, I have done it myself.

Dont think the stats are to bad at the moment regarding the jets getting round theatre in a reasonable time with minimal delays round the route.

As for the charter service going all the way, errrr confused here, does the A/T fleet not go all the way already??
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Yes, the AT fleet goes all the way - because it has DAS. A charter service wouldn't because it doesn't.

Clear now?
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Ariana and Kam air flys to Dubai from Kabul you can fly anywhere from Dubai. you can be home within a day from Afghanistan
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Hot tip....don't fly Ariana
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I flew ariana to Kabul, it wasnt that bad just the pilot ( he was wearing a pilots uniform) came out of the cockpit and sat at the back of the plane for half of the flight. Food wasnt bad from dubai to kabul but i didnt touch it on the way back to dubai.
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ahhh thats the answer lets not bother with the RAF A/T fleet just tell the boys to get up to kabul and jump on the KAM or Ariana flights to dubai and the get home from there ahhh you have solved all the problems, bet they dont make em wear tin hats and body armour either easy eh?

Obviously Harry could have just got a taxi from Helmand to the airport as well even easier, damn why did the MOD not think about that

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Do you not think that using the established airbridge for a "soldier in theatre" is not the right way to do it then?
The whole thing about this is the bloke was trying to be a normal squaddie, so quite rightly he used the system that is in place to get him home, no special treatment! It would have been a travesty and an insult to the other troops if they had laid on any special flights or given him any special treatment
Overall I think the bloke has done pretty well, real shame the story got out, looks like he has matured a hell of a lot as well
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