How Long will the RAF continue to train fast jet Navs?
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An interesting statistic, following Professional Student's accute observation is that many of the WSO going through thick and fast will have been wanabee pilots in the first place.
A significantly high number continue through -
to Provost or Regiment (if they pass JROC).
Whick all goes to show that there is more to the rumour that a Nav's Nav Bag is full of bananas and a pilot pacifier.
A significantly high number continue through -
to Provost or Regiment (if they pass JROC).
Whick all goes to show that there is more to the rumour that a Nav's Nav Bag is full of bananas and a pilot pacifier.
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Lots of stick monkeys, HUD monkeys and so called nose gunners have tried to kill back seaters/side seaters and real PR9 nosegunners over the years. The extra set of eyes saved the day! If being a pilot was difficult -would'nt navs have been given the job years ago?
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Hi Seldomfitforpurpose,
This is an old one, master race v one wing master race, I am a pilot , however never qualified as you seem to be.
I was a techi (radar) on the Shackleton 60`s 70`s , later to be a very humble RAFVR(T) motor glider inst.
In that era on those aircraft (Shack) the pilot did what he was told regarding heading and position.
Most of the Pilots were very skilled both in their flying and more importantly in tactics, I say most because I believe Navs could be Captain?
I assume that pilots needed Navs because the task was complex?
Please never deride these skilled people Nav or WSO, they are there because they are needed.
HRUMPH
This is an old one, master race v one wing master race, I am a pilot , however never qualified as you seem to be.
I was a techi (radar) on the Shackleton 60`s 70`s , later to be a very humble RAFVR(T) motor glider inst.
In that era on those aircraft (Shack) the pilot did what he was told regarding heading and position.
Most of the Pilots were very skilled both in their flying and more importantly in tactics, I say most because I believe Navs could be Captain?
I assume that pilots needed Navs because the task was complex?
Please never deride these skilled people Nav or WSO, they are there because they are needed.
HRUMPH
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gsora,
I joined as a techie in 74 and am now a ALM, never been a pilot and now aged 50 never will..............although I would give my.........either arm to do so.
I read these rather silly threads and smile wryly to myself as I can think of a few occasions that pilots I have flown with have made mistakes and I have jokingly ripped the pi@@ out of them.
But then conversely I can think of a many more times than I wish to recall that the most brand new pilot has saved my bacon
My snipe was aimed the "failed" brethren who so obviously have an Axe to grind.
I joined as a techie in 74 and am now a ALM, never been a pilot and now aged 50 never will..............although I would give my.........either arm to do so.
I read these rather silly threads and smile wryly to myself as I can think of a few occasions that pilots I have flown with have made mistakes and I have jokingly ripped the pi@@ out of them.
But then conversely I can think of a many more times than I wish to recall that the most brand new pilot has saved my bacon
My snipe was aimed the "failed" brethren who so obviously have an Axe to grind.
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I'm yet to meet a WSO who was a pilot in any guise before - but I know a few that have been the opposite... They seem to hate navs more than your average jockey too. (Bit like teetotallers having a harsh view on drunks???)
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He has a valid point though as I am sure the teetotaler who has managed to turn his otherwise pointless existence into something with REAL meaning which then defines himself as a credible member of society would probably be remarkably similar to the way that a Pilot who used to be a Nav would see themselves 
