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Old 7th Feb 2008, 09:22
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2.6 %

See here,
http://www.gnn.gov.uk/Content/Detail...7&NewsAreaID=2
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Thanks for that, didn't realise that the RAF Regt was suffering so badly with retention, I know we all give them grief but I will reiterate the marked change in security at Kandahar was 100% when they assumed responsibility. A good bunch that deserve whatever they get.
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Oh well. 2.6% IN FULL is better than nothing I suppose.

Such a pity that we have to find out through a news source rather than from the MOD - still nothing on their website.
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They probably laid off the webmaster to cover the increase.
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Roland, coulnd't agree more! Was wondering as to the risk of a wah, but all the links on the page work. Has anyone seen the full signal?
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 09:50
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X Factor

I agree it would be nice to see the full report, to see where this big X factor increase we were meant to be getting dissapeared to. As I would hardly call 1% large
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I wait with baited breath for the rank by rank breakdown.

I also wait for the details to see Golden Brown offset the pay rise with rises in food, accommodation, quarters rent, etc, to recoup some of the extra pay.

I agree it would be nice to see the full report, to see where this big X factor increase we were meant to be getting dissapeared to. As I would hardly call 1% large
Well one rumour was accurate, the 7% increase in x-factor was exactly that. Going from 13% to 14% of pay is nearly a 7.7% increase of the original 13%.
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 10:17
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The Report is online

The full report is at:

http://www.ome.uk.com/downloads/AFPR...h%20Report.pdf

Time to get a cup of tea and read and digest!
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 10:19
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Many of those leaving don't really care about the pay, and a large increase wouldn't change their minds anyway.
But this is far from enough to sway the remainder. Look out for a huge increase in FRI next year, when they realise they've porked it!
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Thanks for that, didn't realise that the RAF Regt was suffering so badly with retention, I know we all give them grief but I will reiterate the marked change in security at Kandahar was 100% when they assumed responsibility. A good bunch that deserve whatever they get.

Cheers always nice to know our 'customers' appreciate what we do! Deploying there in late August for another 6 monther...
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2.6%.... What a joke. I bet they want us to believe inflation ius under control and ACTUALLY at 2.1% (above the target and yet the BOE are due to cut rates again in 15 minutes!!! )

Flying pay upped by 2.6% as well as op allce...

See no mention of how much accom is due to go up % wise...

VERY sinister...
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At the end of the day, it gets dark, but 2.6% of bugger all is still bugger all.
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VinRouge asked "Any news about any increase to Op allce or Flying pay?"



The rates of Specialist Pay (including Flying Pay, Submarine Pay, Diving Pay and Hydrographic Pay) will also increase by 2.6 per cent. A new category of specialist pay is also being introduced for Explosive Ordnance Disposal personnel.
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 10:50
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So then, a total of 3.6% across the board, still below the RPI by some way and we will be expected to be grateful for it.

Not the gesture of support or recognition of the changing fac realities of the military that many were looking for. No doubt this view will be taken as whinging and I should just count my blessings when I look at the rest of the Public Sector pay rises. I don't think so. Fortunately the private sector is not so constrained....

Disappointed with the AFPRB to be honest. 1% on X-factor???
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Example of pay rates is on the MOD site

This will get the CivPol upset again....
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What happend to the rumour that they were recommending 20%?

Lets face it, UKPLC is bankrupt, the government are going to have to go through a huge bond issue to fund this year's budget, I suppose in the circumstances, looking at labours record in defence we should be happy with what we have got.

Anyone else see "reposession X3" on ITV... it was a bit of a shocker! Economic downturn here we come!
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Originally Posted by Jock Stirrup
"This pay increase is good news for the Armed Forces at a time when their dedication, determination and courage continue to be tested. It reflects the outstanding contributions our people and their families are making to the defence of our nation. It is also a tangible demonstration of the high regard in which our people are held by the Government and the nation."

Is he serious?
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 11:19
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Accom up by 3.7%, food by 3.4%.

Lovely quote at para 2.3, "On inflation, the Government argued that if what it viewed as short term influences (in particular energy and food price inflation) were stripped out, underlying core inflation had remained low and generally under 2%"

Perhaps if we strip out all the other measurements of inflation we could get it to zero?

Interesting at the table of X-factor considerations at 4.1, of the 18 X-factor factors (us being compared to civilians), 13 have got worse, 4 remain the same and only one has got better...all that for just 1%?
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Old 7th Feb 2008, 11:27
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I thought that our pay included the X factor. However by announcing an increase in the X factor of just 1%, does this mean that 87% (ish) of our pay gets 2.6% and the remainder gets just 1%, actually giving us less money?

I am confused by a misleading article.
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Using the example pay ranges, the overall increase is approx 3.5% for ranks below Lt Col and averages 8% at and above this rank. The restructuring of the x factor for the knobs appears to have had a significant effect on senior salaries.
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