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There was me thinking that average rents nationally had dropped in real terms... never mind. Trust gordon. If he and the ONS say that they have gone up 3.6%, that must be the case....
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There was me thinking that average rents nationally had dropped in real terms... never mind. Trust gordon. If he and the ONS say that they have gone up 3.6%, that must be the case....
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The headline inflation (CPI) has been running around 2% for the year, which gives us a headline inflation busting rise, actual inflation (RPI) has been around 4 - 4.5%, which means that, unless you're a Wing Comedian or above, we've just had a pay cut that's been polished up. 
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Taking the examples from the MOD website and using the basic Private example, this massive, inflation busting rise equals an extra 36 pounds per month take-home pay, before any increases in charges. Don't be tempted to spend it all at once lads!
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According to the BBC report - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7232379.stm
Prime Minister Gordon Brown's spokesman said: "The government continues to believe there needs to be discipline in relation to public sector pay and we need to set awards in line with the government's inflation target."
Decisions have to be taken year by year, sector by sector, he said. He added decisions on pay in relation to public sector workers for this year have not yet been made.
This is a particularly good vintage of spin. I am most definitely confused.
Downing Street said this pay award was for a different pay round than the controversial settlements imposed on other public sector workers for 2007-08.
Prime Minister Gordon Brown's spokesman said: "The government continues to believe there needs to be discipline in relation to public sector pay and we need to set awards in line with the government's inflation target."
Decisions have to be taken year by year, sector by sector, he said. He added decisions on pay in relation to public sector workers for this year have not yet been made.
.Pay08 = Pay07 * 1.026 / 1.13 * 1.14
= Pay07 (Payrise) (strip out old Old X Factor) (apply new X Factor)
The net effect approximates to a 3.5% overall increase in each pay level.
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For those of you who haven't gone through the AFPRB pdf document, the following is extracted for SFA increases
recommend a 3.7 per cent increase to Grade 1 SFA/SLA rental charges and lower, graduated increases for Grades 23 with no increase to Grade 4 (Grade 4 SFA rental charges have been frozen since 1997 and SLA since 1998). We recommend a phased increase to garage rent to reflect increases to civilian charges.
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a phased increase to garage rent to reflect increases to civilian charges
Seeing as we pay our CILOCT to Westminster!!
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well. i think that 2.6% in the current climate is a good award. especially when you consider the shenanigans over the rozzers pay rise.
having said that, you lot deserve every penny and more. its just a shame that all public sector pay rises are not 'real world' increases.
i hardly think that inflation will soar out of control by paying us all what we are actually worth.
ho hum, and stay safe.
TFC
having said that, you lot deserve every penny and more. its just a shame that all public sector pay rises are not 'real world' increases.
i hardly think that inflation will soar out of control by paying us all what we are actually worth.
ho hum, and stay safe.
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2.6 %
With the tax bands not moving Gordon gets 40% of that back and another 8% for NI for most of the officers and SNCO's in the forces.
E.G
Wage 50K @ 2.6% thats worth £1300 a year after taking 48% off for tax thats. £676 a year or £56 a month.
HTD just went down before I left by £9 a month. So in all £47 a MONTH increase before taking food and quarters off.
Gas up 17% lecky up 15% petrol massive increase.
Must be worth in real term a negative pay rise.
Glad I PVR'D
Enjoy your next 4 month trip to the sand pit.
With the tax bands not moving Gordon gets 40% of that back and another 8% for NI for most of the officers and SNCO's in the forces.
E.G
Wage 50K @ 2.6% thats worth £1300 a year after taking 48% off for tax thats. £676 a year or £56 a month.
HTD just went down before I left by £9 a month. So in all £47 a MONTH increase before taking food and quarters off.
Gas up 17% lecky up 15% petrol massive increase.
Must be worth in real term a negative pay rise.
Glad I PVR'D
Enjoy your next 4 month trip to the sand pit.
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HTD just went down before I left by £9 a month. So in all £47 a year increase before taking food and quarters off.
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Hard work ahead
At this rate I'm going to have to get myself promoted again just to try and avoid taking a pay cut in real terms. House prices, energy prices, council tax increases, fuel prices, transport costs etc etc and this government insists that they have inflation in check. Try looking at the RPI and see whether you are getting a pay rise.
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Its below inflation but at least it's not as below as some others...
Maybe its a cunning ploy to get us all to volunteer for ops cos we can't afford to live in this country? The wife will no doubt leave me so that cuts down on expenses further.
Maybe its a cunning ploy to get us all to volunteer for ops cos we can't afford to live in this country? The wife will no doubt leave me so that cuts down on expenses further.
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Maybe its a cunning ploy to get us all to volunteer for ops cos we can't afford to live in this country? The wife will no doubt leave me so that cuts down on expenses further.
Is that after you've 'volunteered' to part with 50% of your pension and started your monthly 'contributions' to keep her in the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed?
Is that after you've 'volunteered' to part with 50% of your pension and started your monthly 'contributions' to keep her in the lifestyle to which she's become accustomed?
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My circumstances (WO high band level 5) result in a pay rise of just over 3.5%. Yes, there is still plenty of room to complain about all manner of things in today's Armed Forces, but I am happy with this increase and have recieived similar comments from all in my workplace, Sqn Ldr to SAC, RAF and RN alike. Not looking for an argument, just passing on the view of a still serving but ever cynical old git.
T. Island:
Lovely quote at para 2.3, "On inflation, the Government argued that if what it viewed as short term influences (in particular energy and food price inflation) were stripped out, underlying core inflation had remained low and generally under 2%"
However, if you strip out the short term influences such as energy and food place inflation, then why the hell is SLA being increased and food increased to 3.89 per day????
Edited to add: Not disagreeing with you old bean, just finding it rather amusing how they pick and choose their indexes!
Lovely quote at para 2.3, "On inflation, the Government argued that if what it viewed as short term influences (in particular energy and food price inflation) were stripped out, underlying core inflation had remained low and generally under 2%"
However, if you strip out the short term influences such as energy and food place inflation, then why the hell is SLA being increased and food increased to 3.89 per day????
Edited to add: Not disagreeing with you old bean, just finding it rather amusing how they pick and choose their indexes!