why no raf gunships
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Stay at Scampton and get on with your training, You are not qualified to give an expert opinion especially using 'Fast Mover' as an example of your knowledge.
Stay at Scampton and get on with your training, You are not qualified to give an expert opinion especially using 'Fast Mover' as an example of your knowledge.
although a big gun would be nice
Really? what type/calibre? What qualifications are you going to introduce? What tactics/heights are you going to fly?
If the MIB's are in gun range, your in RPG range. And a 1950's airliner is a much bigger target than a tellytubby on a scooter.
Sh1te idea. If I was you, I'd stick to getting the bloody thing airborne to do it's primary role rather than speculative pipe dreaming.
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Gents,
With the upmost of respect, I'm feeling abit uneasy about what's being disclosed about capabilities on this thread. Now it may be common knowledge in other circles you frequent, but as a civvy i've learnt about a capability that I wouldn't have of if I hadn't read this thread!
Now if I'm out of line I will humbly apologize....but I've just read this thread and gone 'well I didn't no that'!
Please take care out there.
Jez
With the upmost of respect, I'm feeling abit uneasy about what's being disclosed about capabilities on this thread. Now it may be common knowledge in other circles you frequent, but as a civvy i've learnt about a capability that I wouldn't have of if I hadn't read this thread!
Now if I'm out of line I will humbly apologize....but I've just read this thread and gone 'well I didn't no that'!
Please take care out there.
Jez
"I've read its the pilots are the ones who actually fire the guns"
the gatling guns are hard mounted. the pilot uses a sidemounted HUD, that projects a pipper/crosshair to center then they fire. The remainder of the guns are tied to LLTV, IR targeting and also electronic emissions sensors. The 25mm gau 12, and 40mm bofors are to be replaced by 2010 with the 30mm bushmaster, which will give airburst capability to the smaller cannons. The 40mm's are too old and are hard to service. There is also talk of replacing the howitzer with a 120mm breech load mortar. and lantirn pods with hellfire missiles for standoff targeting.
the gatling guns are hard mounted. the pilot uses a sidemounted HUD, that projects a pipper/crosshair to center then they fire. The remainder of the guns are tied to LLTV, IR targeting and also electronic emissions sensors. The 25mm gau 12, and 40mm bofors are to be replaced by 2010 with the 30mm bushmaster, which will give airburst capability to the smaller cannons. The 40mm's are too old and are hard to service. There is also talk of replacing the howitzer with a 120mm breech load mortar. and lantirn pods with hellfire missiles for standoff targeting.
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Yes we still need fast jet in the right circumstances, I don't argue that. What is needed is a platform that can mark the target and take it out when required, within seconds of being given the clearance from the ground not 1 hour...
14hrs persistence fully loaded, sensor-to-shooter time Zero. Fast enough in most circumstances.
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jez, so it seems.
Oddly what might appear to be sneaky beaky stuff here has often been aired in the specialist magazines ages ago. If you read these magazines you will find full colour photos and diagrams etc that often make valuable training material for our own people. You will find that they were all officially sanctioned.
On Pprune, not so long ago, there appeared a picture of a steely blue-eyed killer. That pic had appeared in a US publication some years earlier.
As for capability, over 30 years ago, I was on a course that used open source material regarding synthetic aperture radar, helmet mounted sights etc. Its all there and usually a video on U-Tube too.
Oddly what might appear to be sneaky beaky stuff here has often been aired in the specialist magazines ages ago. If you read these magazines you will find full colour photos and diagrams etc that often make valuable training material for our own people. You will find that they were all officially sanctioned.
On Pprune, not so long ago, there appeared a picture of a steely blue-eyed killer. That pic had appeared in a US publication some years earlier.
As for capability, over 30 years ago, I was on a course that used open source material regarding synthetic aperture radar, helmet mounted sights etc. Its all there and usually a video on U-Tube too.
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Errr I played the AC-130 level on Call of Duty 4 on the X box and did very well......am I qualified to talk about this subject? 
I'd still love to see us get hold of a few Skyraiders, just because they look nice and the sound of a couple of fully loaded Spads loitering in the distance would be quite a morale boost I should think.
I'd still love to see us get hold of a few Skyraiders, just because they look nice and the sound of a couple of fully loaded Spads loitering in the distance would be quite a morale boost I should think.
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i recall reading many years ago that the first airframes of this class were old c47s with 3 or 4 .50cals stuck out the windows. i saw a spectre on the static line at mildenhall in the early 90s, my wife who normally pays no attention at all said it made her feel 'funny' 
Perhaps we should have bought a few squadrons of second hand A10 instead of the US giving them to their Air National Guard? Plenty of loiter time & good weapons carrying capacity. Oh, & its a pity that the US never bought the 2 seat Night/ Adverse weather version but there you go...
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I believe there can be no comparison on effectiveness by comparing the GR4 on Telic with the GR9 on Herrick. The nature of the beast is wholly different.
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Nice one, it wasn't the AC-130 I was refering to but there you go
I just had a flash back to that security film they used to show us about opsec, the one where the herc gets taken out on the way to the Falklands carrying a belly full of missiles....ah nostalgia
As for call of duty 4 what a top game
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Nice one, it wasn't the AC-130 I was refering to but there you go
I just had a flash back to that security film they used to show us about opsec, the one where the herc gets taken out on the way to the Falklands carrying a belly full of missiles....ah nostalgia
As for call of duty 4 what a top game
regards
Jez
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jez, true, I remember that one. There was also a Pongo one where the commander was known to insist on leading from the front. He was also known for his individualistic R/T.
The RCM guys DFd him - game set and match.
The RCM guys DFd him - game set and match.
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circle_kay, in English maybe. Try Russian
I am not absolutely sure but it is something like Radio Combat Electonic Warfare. Esentially ComInt.
Just Googled too - now REC
Radio Electronic Warfare
I am not absolutely sure but it is something like Radio Combat Electonic Warfare. Esentially ComInt.
Just Googled too - now REC
Radio Electronic Warfare
Minigundiplomat, Maybe you meant a SA-7?
As with similar weapons, the RPG grenade protrudes from the launch tubes. It is 70-85 mm in diameter and weighs between 2.5 and 4.5 kg. It is propelled by a gunpowder booster charge at 115 m/s, which creates a cloud of light grey-blue smoke. The rocket motor ignites after 10 meters and sustains flight out to 500 meters at a maximum velocity of 295 m/s. The grenade is stabilized by two sets of fins that deploy in-flight: one large set on the stabilizer pipe to maintain direction and a smaller front set to induce rotation. The grenade can fly up to 1100 meters; the fuze sets the maximum range, usually 920 m.
Accurate firing is difficult over 300 m and with the RPG-7 the phrase "the closer the better" is always true. During the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan the mujahideen tended to use the weapon at ranges of less than 80 m.
The Afghans did develop a novel approach using the grenade self destruct mechanism, by volleying 5 or more shots in the same area/time, and trying for an improvised airburst effect
As with similar weapons, the RPG grenade protrudes from the launch tubes. It is 70-85 mm in diameter and weighs between 2.5 and 4.5 kg. It is propelled by a gunpowder booster charge at 115 m/s, which creates a cloud of light grey-blue smoke. The rocket motor ignites after 10 meters and sustains flight out to 500 meters at a maximum velocity of 295 m/s. The grenade is stabilized by two sets of fins that deploy in-flight: one large set on the stabilizer pipe to maintain direction and a smaller front set to induce rotation. The grenade can fly up to 1100 meters; the fuze sets the maximum range, usually 920 m.
Accurate firing is difficult over 300 m and with the RPG-7 the phrase "the closer the better" is always true. During the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan the mujahideen tended to use the weapon at ranges of less than 80 m.
The Afghans did develop a novel approach using the grenade self destruct mechanism, by volleying 5 or more shots in the same area/time, and trying for an improvised airburst effect
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RCM was Radio Counter Measures. We now refer to it as Electronic Counter Measures although RAF RCM assets from WWII included what we'd now know as EA, ELINT, COMINT, even active comms spoofing.
When you look at what 100 Gp did in the war, it could be claimed that the RAF wrote the book on SEAD, Compass Call and SIGINT.
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When you look at what 100 Gp did in the war, it could be claimed that the RAF wrote the book on SEAD, Compass Call and SIGINT.
Regards,
MM