RAAF offer $30,000 to retain Pilots
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Firstly, the Navy already run a retention bonus scheme. PACMAN Ch 3 Pt 5 Div 15 outlines the conditions that are required for payment of a completion bonus. As far as calculation of retention bonuses is done, firstly a case for retention of a particular trade has to be made. In this case, a number of factors would have been considered to initiate this business case. Capability effect, position vacancy rates, time for training etc are all taken into account. One of the issues with the process is that it is reactive. It is too hard to get in front of the game when admin action gets taken after the problem arises.
The ADF Aircrew case at the end of 2008 will primarily focus on the new category of Air Combat Officer (RAAF) with a review of Flying Allowance at the same time. The date of effect is when the determination is signed. Only federal politicians wages are under "freeze". The ADF has pay cases conducted under a Workplace Remuneration Agreement decided by the DFRT, an industrial relations commission with the same powers as a Federal Court. The can not be influenced by the political process. What gets decided is done through a court process, with two parties, advocates and a case to argue. The Commonwealth is represented by DEWR, whilst the ADF argument is provided by DMSA-P. Most cases are presented for ratification by the DFRT as 'agreed' cases, that is, the Commonwealth does not oppose the work value case presented by the ADF.
The ADF Aircrew case at the end of 2008 will primarily focus on the new category of Air Combat Officer (RAAF) with a review of Flying Allowance at the same time. The date of effect is when the determination is signed. Only federal politicians wages are under "freeze". The ADF has pay cases conducted under a Workplace Remuneration Agreement decided by the DFRT, an industrial relations commission with the same powers as a Federal Court. The can not be influenced by the political process. What gets decided is done through a court process, with two parties, advocates and a case to argue. The Commonwealth is represented by DEWR, whilst the ADF argument is provided by DMSA-P. Most cases are presented for ratification by the DFRT as 'agreed' cases, that is, the Commonwealth does not oppose the work value case presented by the ADF.
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As reported in the March edition of Australian Aviation. “The RAAF lost more than twice the number of pilots at FLTLT and SQNLDR level than the two previous years combined.”
And….”I want to demonstrate my commitment to you and ask you to ‘hold the faith’ while we develop the aircrew pay case throughout 2008” – CAF.
As an aside, reading the article, if the Air Combat Officer (ACO) was such a critical component of breaking down the hierarchic process, why not roll pilots into the ACO stream?
And….”I want to demonstrate my commitment to you and ask you to ‘hold the faith’ while we develop the aircrew pay case throughout 2008” – CAF.
As an aside, reading the article, if the Air Combat Officer (ACO) was such a critical component of breaking down the hierarchic process, why not roll pilots into the ACO stream?
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griffinblack wrote:
'As an aside, reading the article, if the Air Combat Officer (ACO) was such a critical component of breaking down the hierarchic process, why not roll pilots into the ACO stream?'
!!! HAHAHA
They could graduate from SAW(A).
The School of Air Warfare (Aptitude division).
'As an aside, reading the article, if the Air Combat Officer (ACO) was such a critical component of breaking down the hierarchic process, why not roll pilots into the ACO stream?'
!!! HAHAHA
They could graduate from SAW(A).
The School of Air Warfare (Aptitude division).
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Spot on, Bunghole and Big Dog.
As recently as late last year Flick was on record as saying there was no pilot retention problem in the RAAF.
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone sat him down and explained in words of one syllable what was actually occurring at the coal face so far away from Canberra.
This retention bonus is exactly the same as all those that have preceded it; an unimaginative and token solution to a well known problem.
Flick is attempting to be seen to be doing something, and hoping like hell the pollies (or Heaven forbid, the media) don’t scratch below the surface.
Speaking of the media where’s a troll when you need one?!
As recently as late last year Flick was on record as saying there was no pilot retention problem in the RAAF.
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone sat him down and explained in words of one syllable what was actually occurring at the coal face so far away from Canberra.
This retention bonus is exactly the same as all those that have preceded it; an unimaginative and token solution to a well known problem.
Flick is attempting to be seen to be doing something, and hoping like hell the pollies (or Heaven forbid, the media) don’t scratch below the surface.
Speaking of the media where’s a troll when you need one?!
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Spot on, Bunghole and Big Dog.
As recently as late last year Flick was on record as saying there was no pilot retention problem in the RAAF.
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone sat him down and explained in words of one syllable what was actually occurring at the coal face so far away from Canberra.
This retention bonus is exactly the same as all those that have preceded it; an unimaginative and token solution to a well known problem.
Flick is attempting to be seen to be doing something, and hoping like hell the pollies (or Heaven forbid, the media) don’t scratch below the surface before he gets out.
Speaking of the media where’s a troll when you need one?!
As recently as late last year Flick was on record as saying there was no pilot retention problem in the RAAF.
I have a sneaking suspicion that someone sat him down and explained in words of one syllable what was actually occurring at the coal face so far away from Canberra.
This retention bonus is exactly the same as all those that have preceded it; an unimaginative and token solution to a well known problem.
Flick is attempting to be seen to be doing something, and hoping like hell the pollies (or Heaven forbid, the media) don’t scratch below the surface before he gets out.
Speaking of the media where’s a troll when you need one?!
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Surveillnace Australia Pilot Recruitment
Surveillance Australia are offering a very competitive package
CAPT Base of $100K plus retention benefit over the nex 3 years of $200K broken down to Yr 1 $50K Yr 2 $50K and Yr 3 $100K (On top of base salary).
F/O $60K base and $120K retention over 3 years $30K/$30K/$60K
Saw this info on Friday just gone in the Australian
Few flying jobs offer hands on low level flying as part of a close knit small crew environment in a
role of national importance. Combined with job security, lifestyle, competitive salaries, a range of
employment and working options and carrying out a task that makes a real difference.
Surveillance Australia’s fleet of highly modified Dash 8 aircraft are the front line of border
protection for Australia. Using leading edge surveillance technology we detect illegal activities
and national security threats under long term contract to the Australian Customs Service.
If you seek real training and fast merit based promotion as part of a highly professional team
supporting our country’s national security, Surveillance Australia wants to talk to you.
We will be recruiting throughout 2008. To show how this career could be your next big step,
Surveillance Australia will hold information sessions for prospective pilots in:
• Perth –
Monday 25th February 2008
• Melbourne – Tuesday 26th February 2008
• Sydney – Wednesday 27th February 2008
• Brisbane – Thursday 28th February 2008
• Toowoomba – Friday 29th February 2008
• Adelaide – Monday 3rd March 2008
• Townsville – Wednesday 5th March 2008
• Cairns – Thursday 6th 2008
• Darwin – Friday 7th March 2008
Full details of session times and locations are available from
www.surveillanceaustralia.com.au/pilots
Alternatively you can contact Jaya on 08 8154 5600
or email: [email protected]
CAPT Base of $100K plus retention benefit over the nex 3 years of $200K broken down to Yr 1 $50K Yr 2 $50K and Yr 3 $100K (On top of base salary).
F/O $60K base and $120K retention over 3 years $30K/$30K/$60K
Saw this info on Friday just gone in the Australian
Few flying jobs offer hands on low level flying as part of a close knit small crew environment in a
role of national importance. Combined with job security, lifestyle, competitive salaries, a range of
employment and working options and carrying out a task that makes a real difference.
Surveillance Australia’s fleet of highly modified Dash 8 aircraft are the front line of border
protection for Australia. Using leading edge surveillance technology we detect illegal activities
and national security threats under long term contract to the Australian Customs Service.
If you seek real training and fast merit based promotion as part of a highly professional team
supporting our country’s national security, Surveillance Australia wants to talk to you.
We will be recruiting throughout 2008. To show how this career could be your next big step,
Surveillance Australia will hold information sessions for prospective pilots in:
• Perth –
Monday 25th February 2008
• Melbourne – Tuesday 26th February 2008
• Sydney – Wednesday 27th February 2008
• Brisbane – Thursday 28th February 2008
• Toowoomba – Friday 29th February 2008
• Adelaide – Monday 3rd March 2008
• Townsville – Wednesday 5th March 2008
• Cairns – Thursday 6th 2008
• Darwin – Friday 7th March 2008
Full details of session times and locations are available from
www.surveillanceaustralia.com.au/pilots
Alternatively you can contact Jaya on 08 8154 5600
or email: [email protected]
