Anounced Today - No Mod Laptops To Go Home...
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Anounced Today - No Mod Laptops To Go Home...
Anyone else get a very long tannoy message about not taking Service laptops away from Service establishments today?
Well done MoD, you have just stopped me from working from home - thank you for giving me my evenings back again.
Or did I mishear the meloderous rant from the girl on the tannoy?
LJ
Well done MoD, you have just stopped me from working from home - thank you for giving me my evenings back again.
Or did I mishear the meloderous rant from the girl on the tannoy?
LJ
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Same message here - although it sounded like "All personnel are to now shut the stable door, I say again, all personnel are to now shut the stable door". 
Last edited by D-IFF_ident; 23rd Jan 2008 at 22:05. Reason: Spolling
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Excellent, I can't wait to tell the CO why I haven't finished my work.
"Well Sir, the Secretary of State banned me from doing SJARs/OJARs whilst away on det in the USA and I couldn't finish them when I got home either!"
Once again, Mr Browne, you're Ministry has surpassed itself - ever thought of becoming the Minister for Sound? You might cause less damage...
The Minister was heard to say,
"I am very sorry for losing the lost Boy George records and I have instructed that no music or mixing decks are to be taken home by Ministry workers. Mobile discos are also not exempt from this ruling..."
"Well Sir, the Secretary of State banned me from doing SJARs/OJARs whilst away on det in the USA and I couldn't finish them when I got home either!"
Once again, Mr Browne, you're Ministry has surpassed itself - ever thought of becoming the Minister for Sound? You might cause less damage...
The Minister was heard to say,
"I am very sorry for losing the lost Boy George records and I have instructed that no music or mixing decks are to be taken home by Ministry workers. Mobile discos are also not exempt from this ruling..."
Last edited by Lima Juliet; 23rd Jan 2008 at 22:26. Reason: edit spooling misteak
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Alternative Swiss Des ending...
"You see, Prime Minister, losing a laptop to a car thief is much like making love to a beautiful woman...rumaging about in the dark to locate a thin dark box, whilst trying not to turn her on so that she emits a high pitch whine or attracts a passing sailor."
"You see, Prime Minister, losing a laptop to a car thief is much like making love to a beautiful woman...rumaging about in the dark to locate a thin dark box, whilst trying not to turn her on so that she emits a high pitch whine or attracts a passing sailor."
Last edited by Lima Juliet; 23rd Jan 2008 at 22:46. Reason: spooling misteak
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Must have encryption to take a laptop off base. Cannot take any form of magnetic media containing personnel data off base, (CD, USB Pen etc).
I bet that this will really improve the DAG on Det. (Deployed Admin Group - much more deadly than the old Divisional Artillery Group). I wonder how they will manage to mess us about without all the data forms to fill in and and send daily to wherever they send them!
Must have encryption to take a laptop off base. Cannot take any form of magnetic media containing personnel data off base, (CD, USB Pen etc).
I bet that this will really improve the DAG on Det. (Deployed Admin Group - much more deadly than the old Divisional Artillery Group). I wonder how they will manage to mess us about without all the data forms to fill in and and send daily to wherever they send them!
Ecce Homo! Loquitur...
Many, many years ago they brought in the policy of laptops with classified data having removable HDD which had to be carried on your person 0 remove the V&A from the classified. Why the hell don't the same rules apply to this sort of data? Come to think of, why aren't, 10 years down line, all laptops bought with removable HDDs?
I work for a multinational, all our company laptops are fitted with PGP and everyone has their own electronic keys to generate the codes for logging onto their laptop, the VPN etc.
It's not exactly rocket science......
I work for a multinational, all our company laptops are fitted with PGP and everyone has their own electronic keys to generate the codes for logging onto their laptop, the VPN etc.
It's not exactly rocket science......
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But one gathers that about 600 laptops have gone AWOL/nicked/lost in the last ten years!! That's more than one a week ....
...... and we've only just noticed.....
...... and we've only just noticed.....
...... and we've only just noticed.....
I'd say with 99% certainty that the losses were known about and just ignored. When we moved from London to ShabbyWood 10/13 of ours went "missing". Not nicked you understand, just permanently missing. No-one was interested, least of all the security guy who was struggling with the fact that whoever specified ABW didn't ask for secure cabinets for classified docs, which were just left lying on the floor. The "planners" had announced a paper free environment so most of the cabinets had been sold off the day we left London. They were promptly bought back at huge expense.
I'd say with 99% certainty that the losses were known about and just ignored. When we moved from London to ShabbyWood 10/13 of ours went "missing". Not nicked you understand, just permanently missing. No-one was interested, least of all the security guy who was struggling with the fact that whoever specified ABW didn't ask for secure cabinets for classified docs, which were just left lying on the floor. The "planners" had announced a paper free environment so most of the cabinets had been sold off the day we left London. They were promptly bought back at huge expense.
......but I bet that most (if not all) of you have your own PC at home.
......and (secure) technology is available that allows you to logon to your system at the office (nearly everybody has ADSL) and continue to work and have access to all of your files, albeit remotely. You should not be allowed to download anything onto your local hard disc.
Now how clever is that? Perhaps too simple for MoD!
......and (secure) technology is available that allows you to logon to your system at the office (nearly everybody has ADSL) and continue to work and have access to all of your files, albeit remotely. You should not be allowed to download anything onto your local hard disc.
Now how clever is that? Perhaps too simple for MoD!
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I know a man who moved from Shabby to a Logs place in Cambs and his PC went to his house. It eventually gave up it's ghost. You know what he did? Spent hours on the phone trying to get it fixed by the MoD!
I just can't believe it!!!
I just can't believe it!!!
mtb
I know it's barely believable but that sounds about right. It wouldn't have been one of the new (at the time) networked PCs, but an older one (although as the first ABW PCs were actually very dated it's possible what he got had a better spec). The deal was you use it at home and if there was a problem you call the IT guys. No call out mind you, it had to be brought to work for repair! Wasn't just the PC, but laser printers as well. I know a few who still have them.
You have to remember that this was in the days when CDP had directed that some staff do an extra 20 hours a week in the office (unpaid) and specific projects were only to be done at home in the evenings and week-ends, regardless of classification. At the time I didn't even have e-mail at home so you were constantly humping docs back and forth. The security regs simply hadn't kept pace with the technological changes. Having seen this, I'm afraid nothing surprises me about these security breaches.
I know it's barely believable but that sounds about right. It wouldn't have been one of the new (at the time) networked PCs, but an older one (although as the first ABW PCs were actually very dated it's possible what he got had a better spec). The deal was you use it at home and if there was a problem you call the IT guys. No call out mind you, it had to be brought to work for repair! Wasn't just the PC, but laser printers as well. I know a few who still have them.
You have to remember that this was in the days when CDP had directed that some staff do an extra 20 hours a week in the office (unpaid) and specific projects were only to be done at home in the evenings and week-ends, regardless of classification. At the time I didn't even have e-mail at home so you were constantly humping docs back and forth. The security regs simply hadn't kept pace with the technological changes. Having seen this, I'm afraid nothing surprises me about these security breaches.
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Working from home is actually permissible under civil service rules although your workspace has to be properly defined and I believe inspected.
I likethe final paragraph of the instruction:
Finally, I take this opportunity to remind all users of policy compliant laptops which have full disc encryption installed that they must ensure that when the laptop is not in use, the laptop and any security token (such as BeCrypt) and password are kept separate so that in the event that either is lost or stolen, data on the laptop cannot be compromised. Please ensure that this message is communicated throughout your management area as soon as possible."
'course no one would be so foolish to keep them together now would they?
Would they?
I likethe final paragraph of the instruction:
Finally, I take this opportunity to remind all users of policy compliant laptops which have full disc encryption installed that they must ensure that when the laptop is not in use, the laptop and any security token (such as BeCrypt) and password are kept separate so that in the event that either is lost or stolen, data on the laptop cannot be compromised. Please ensure that this message is communicated throughout your management area as soon as possible."
'course no one would be so foolish to keep them together now would they?
Would they?
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Does this figure of 600 include the ones which get left unlabelled on baggage trolleys at Brize Norton passenger terminal, and are subsequently blown up?
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Any other Senior CS knee jerk reactions coming our way?
1. F3 crews banned from all Pop Concerts!
2. All RAF Officers to be banned from Honours List following VR(T) 'Walter' fiasco!
1. F3 crews banned from all Pop Concerts!
2. All RAF Officers to be banned from Honours List following VR(T) 'Walter' fiasco!
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Surely the MOD should be more worried about the transmission of unencrypted JPA data over the MOD IT network, which I believe is connected to the internet? Then again I'm not an IT geek. Anyone from 591SU care to comment?
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Surely that ban should be a ban on car theft.
Next it will be ban flying in case there's a crash!