Ross Kemp in Afghanistan
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Lou,
Forgive me, I didn't realise that I was in the presence of such greatness!
A successful airline pilot indeed.............. you mean a glorified bus driver!
I couldn't give a monkeys what you did then or subsequently. Your comments are, and remain, offensive.
"It was a good day out but lets keep it in perspective. "
How galling, one would hope you wouldn't extend that particular view to all Rememberance Parades.
"Quite frankly I find your institutionalised attitude quite obnoxious.
Try thinking for yourself intead of a mass organism."
When the Airline tires of you, you should become a stand-up comedian......I would give you 2 minutes at the most.
Hopefully we will never meet, I couldnt bear the thought of my life, amongst many others, being in your hands! I mean such a cynical, narrow-minded pi55-pot juggler like yourself in charge of any kind of airframe is more frightening than, well you get the gist.
Enjoy flying with Buddy Holly Airlines.
I seriously pity you.
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Forgive me, I didn't realise that I was in the presence of such greatness!
A successful airline pilot indeed.............. you mean a glorified bus driver!
I couldn't give a monkeys what you did then or subsequently. Your comments are, and remain, offensive.
"It was a good day out but lets keep it in perspective. "
How galling, one would hope you wouldn't extend that particular view to all Rememberance Parades.
"Quite frankly I find your institutionalised attitude quite obnoxious.
Try thinking for yourself intead of a mass organism."
When the Airline tires of you, you should become a stand-up comedian......I would give you 2 minutes at the most.
Hopefully we will never meet, I couldnt bear the thought of my life, amongst many others, being in your hands! I mean such a cynical, narrow-minded pi55-pot juggler like yourself in charge of any kind of airframe is more frightening than, well you get the gist.
Enjoy flying with Buddy Holly Airlines.
I seriously pity you.
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Lou has a point. The real warriors may reminisce, but we do it laughing at remembered mistakes while only the hangers-on reminisce as if they regret never having been in the action in those days. Save the tears, our comrades are in a better place.
Remember most of you work for me miles behind my contrails. You polish my throttle, buff my knobs, hang pods and bombs on my plane and give me a smart boy scout salute as I prepare to blast off into the blue yonder. I am the point man. So what do you know about war?
Who here has returned with green foliage snagged on the wheel well? Who here has plummetted behind a bandit trailing blue afterburner, twisting and rolling like a viper? Who here has nursed a riddled, flapping comrade back to base, quietly crooning Avril Lagne over the intercom to calm your 22-year-old blonde wingman?
War, nothing like it, but it's not the main part of soldiering.
Remember most of you work for me miles behind my contrails. You polish my throttle, buff my knobs, hang pods and bombs on my plane and give me a smart boy scout salute as I prepare to blast off into the blue yonder. I am the point man. So what do you know about war?
Who here has returned with green foliage snagged on the wheel well? Who here has plummetted behind a bandit trailing blue afterburner, twisting and rolling like a viper? Who here has nursed a riddled, flapping comrade back to base, quietly crooning Avril Lagne over the intercom to calm your 22-year-old blonde wingman?
War, nothing like it, but it's not the main part of soldiering.
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LM............F**k Off.
You pre pubescent rubbish isn't worthy of a Xbox forum yet alone here. I had hoped that you had died of embarrasement after your comments regarding Canadian KIA's.
Hopefully the admin can clear you of your debt to this forum.
You pre pubescent rubbish isn't worthy of a Xbox forum yet alone here. I had hoped that you had died of embarrasement after your comments regarding Canadian KIA's.
Hopefully the admin can clear you of your debt to this forum.
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Particularly at this point in time, most servicemen will have had a friend or colleague and possibly several acquaintances who have been killed on ops and many will have been involved in the repatriation process. Any emotion felt by those left behind and ridiculed by the trolls of this thread, is most likely genuine and it is downright offensive and ignorant to suggest that it is some sort of 'Diana effect'.
How dare you tell me how I should react when I hear of another fatal aircraft crash involving someone I know. How dare you tell me what emotions I should feel when I see another Union Jack draped coffin being carried across the tarmac.
If you do not get a lump in your throat when you hear the last post, or watch yet another repatriation ceremony then in my opinion, you lack the humanity and comprehension of sacrifice that all people should possess and should be second nature for all service personnel.
LM, get back to Microsoft Flight Sim, there's a good lad. If you are legally an adult, you are an obnoxious idiot. You are just the type of person that SH crewmen like to make mugs of tea for.
Try going into the engineers' crewroom and saying that - see how you get on. That's if mummy let's you out of the house alone, and it doesn't conflict with the terms of your ASBO.
Lou, If you have ever actually served I shall be amazed. If you are that dispassionate you are not fit to command anyone. 'Another body bag - never mind, eh? All part of his contractual obligations. Next'. If you had served in any meaningful way I think you'd know better. Still, don't let that stop you spinning dits to your 'highly successful' airline colleagues.
How dare you tell me how I should react when I hear of another fatal aircraft crash involving someone I know. How dare you tell me what emotions I should feel when I see another Union Jack draped coffin being carried across the tarmac.
If you do not get a lump in your throat when you hear the last post, or watch yet another repatriation ceremony then in my opinion, you lack the humanity and comprehension of sacrifice that all people should possess and should be second nature for all service personnel.
LM, get back to Microsoft Flight Sim, there's a good lad. If you are legally an adult, you are an obnoxious idiot. You are just the type of person that SH crewmen like to make mugs of tea for.
Remember most of you work for me miles behind my contrails. You polish my throttle, buff my knobs, hang pods and bombs on my plane and give me a smart boy scout salute as I prepare to blast off into the blue yonder. I am the point man. So what do you know about war?
Lou, If you have ever actually served I shall be amazed. If you are that dispassionate you are not fit to command anyone. 'Another body bag - never mind, eh? All part of his contractual obligations. Next'. If you had served in any meaningful way I think you'd know better. Still, don't let that stop you spinning dits to your 'highly successful' airline colleagues.
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Champagne anyone...?
Brilliant! Some proper fruitcakery going on in here today 
Generally speaking I'd be hard pushed to give less of a toss, really, about what Joe Public thinks about me and what I do. I would like to think they would recognise the sacrifice of those that come back in boxes or horribly injured and I would like to think that perhaps society would look after these people and their families and not treat them like crap.
That said, as I long as I keep coming back in one piece I expect nothing from Joe P and, to paraphrase Frank N Furter, I recieve it in abundance. Not bothered. I get paid a healthy wage, get to fly about and generally do cool sh*t. I joined the military 18 years ago fully aware of how it all worked. People may not particularly care that we in the Military don't get looked after terribly well just in the same way that I don't particularly care that Policemen want more pay or that X hundred people have been made redundant by XYZ Airline. Sign of the times I guess.
What does grip my sh*t however is being lied to and mistreated/misused by the Government that sends us off on our jolly little forays. Give us the kit to do the job or don't ask to do the job. Simple enough really.
LM - fishing exped. Nice - catch anything? Netfull by the look of it
Lou - Not sure what you're on, funny though. Can sympathise with you to a certain extent about the "Liverpool effect" (grieving and weeping for people they've never met or seen - to wit, the day of Liverpudlian mourning over Ken Bigley) but I think you're being a little harsh judging people whom you don't actually know. As for your having defeated the Argie Army single handedly and then having become Britain's number one airline pilot, racing car driver and astronaut - puuuurrrlease.....
Let it go man....
Generally speaking I'd be hard pushed to give less of a toss, really, about what Joe Public thinks about me and what I do. I would like to think they would recognise the sacrifice of those that come back in boxes or horribly injured and I would like to think that perhaps society would look after these people and their families and not treat them like crap.
That said, as I long as I keep coming back in one piece I expect nothing from Joe P and, to paraphrase Frank N Furter, I recieve it in abundance. Not bothered. I get paid a healthy wage, get to fly about and generally do cool sh*t. I joined the military 18 years ago fully aware of how it all worked. People may not particularly care that we in the Military don't get looked after terribly well just in the same way that I don't particularly care that Policemen want more pay or that X hundred people have been made redundant by XYZ Airline. Sign of the times I guess.
What does grip my sh*t however is being lied to and mistreated/misused by the Government that sends us off on our jolly little forays. Give us the kit to do the job or don't ask to do the job. Simple enough really.
LM - fishing exped. Nice - catch anything? Netfull by the look of it
Lou - Not sure what you're on, funny though. Can sympathise with you to a certain extent about the "Liverpool effect" (grieving and weeping for people they've never met or seen - to wit, the day of Liverpudlian mourning over Ken Bigley) but I think you're being a little harsh judging people whom you don't actually know. As for your having defeated the Argie Army single handedly and then having become Britain's number one airline pilot, racing car driver and astronaut - puuuurrrlease.....
Let it go man....
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Stop start,
I only mentioned the war and the airline. Who told you about my racing career or occaisional forays to orbit.
Your liverpool analogy and reference to the govt has hit the nail on the head.
Still some people are so "grieved up" they cant reason
Now i will move on thanks for the counseling guys.
Its been fun.
To the good guys be safe.
Jungly..."end of transmission" wtf is that. Have you got baggy green skin and black shiney feet as well? Muppet
The civilian world will try to muddle thru until you stop crying and get out to put us right.
I only mentioned the war and the airline. Who told you about my racing career or occaisional forays to orbit.
Your liverpool analogy and reference to the govt has hit the nail on the head.
Still some people are so "grieved up" they cant reason
Now i will move on thanks for the counseling guys.
Its been fun.
To the good guys be safe.
Jungly..."end of transmission" wtf is that. Have you got baggy green skin and black shiney feet as well? Muppet
The civilian world will try to muddle thru until you stop crying and get out to put us right.
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I'd be interested to hear from one of the Mods re Like (or is that Simple) Minded and Lou Backwater - could you look up the IP address and see if it is one and the same person?
If not, then two villages are currently missing their idiot. Internet cafes should be banned in small towns.
Lou - you must have had an interesting and awe inspiring military career if your message to a member of the RN is:
. Did you ever manage to get off the parade ground?
As for a successful career as an airline pilot, all I can do is re-iterate Strictly Jungly's comment
I'm ex-forces (RN as it happens), never thought I was special when I was in, and I don't think that members of the AF today think that they are special. However they do deserve our respect.
If you served (which I seriously doubt), you must be blind not to see that our forces today are seriously overstretched in comparison to days of old, fighting a type of war in several theatres that you should have a little bit of appreciation for, as you claim to have served in NI 3 times (as a drill instructor perhaps?), although NI is probably nothing compared to fighting terrorists who are happy to commit suicide in their quest.
I defy any real member or ex member of the Forces who does not feel some emotion when they witness parades etc. It's not about tears, but there is some emotion... unless you are such a hardened steely killing machine that it washes over you.
It has nothing to do with "Princess Diana hysteria" (I personally think that in that instance it is a hysteria), it's about an appreciation of a shared experience, whether that be having served and taken part in a conflict, or merely (!) having been proud to have served in the Armed Forces.
Anyhoo, it's probably a waste of time typing this as it's 1850, must be bedtime for you... we'll let you get back to your computer games as from your posts you indicate that you have progressed from Medal of Honour (retired with honours) and now play MS Flight Sim.
Happy landings old chap, keep an eye on those Ts and Ps as your auto pilot does the work
If not, then two villages are currently missing their idiot. Internet cafes should be banned in small towns.
Lou - you must have had an interesting and awe inspiring military career if your message to a member of the RN is:
A bit less crying and a bit more marching practice and well be getting somewhere.
As for a successful career as an airline pilot, all I can do is re-iterate Strictly Jungly's comment
.....you mean a glorified bus driver!
If you served (which I seriously doubt), you must be blind not to see that our forces today are seriously overstretched in comparison to days of old, fighting a type of war in several theatres that you should have a little bit of appreciation for, as you claim to have served in NI 3 times (as a drill instructor perhaps?), although NI is probably nothing compared to fighting terrorists who are happy to commit suicide in their quest.
I defy any real member or ex member of the Forces who does not feel some emotion when they witness parades etc. It's not about tears, but there is some emotion... unless you are such a hardened steely killing machine that it washes over you.
It has nothing to do with "Princess Diana hysteria" (I personally think that in that instance it is a hysteria), it's about an appreciation of a shared experience, whether that be having served and taken part in a conflict, or merely (!) having been proud to have served in the Armed Forces.
Anyhoo, it's probably a waste of time typing this as it's 1850, must be bedtime for you... we'll let you get back to your computer games as from your posts you indicate that you have progressed from Medal of Honour (retired with honours) and now play MS Flight Sim.
Happy landings old chap, keep an eye on those Ts and Ps as your auto pilot does the work
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right i have read enough.
what can i say??? plenty...but will refrain...ish!
oooh get you lou...a successful airline pilot eh?! what do you want? a pat on the back? who says you're successful..you? well, if that is the case i would say i personally would be sh*****g myself if i was on your plane as you seem to think that you are right in your "opinions" and my god you are sooo wrong, so if you think you are a successful pilot then get out quick is all i would say to your passengers! you are clearly wrong on your interpretations of what you see, so it's fair to say successful is not a word that i would apply to you. i do have plenty
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i do not want to stoop to your level. what on earth has your civvie street job got to do with your right to be so dis respectful to those who serve and those who grieve? i am a nurse in a neuro itu, but that makes me no better than the person who empties my bins, i do not allow that to be the reason why i am right in my opinions. that does not dis regard others opinions. i do not look at others who serve in the same environment that i do and decide that i have experienced the same as them and their reactions are wrong.
an interesting concept you may wish to consider. everyone is an individual. everyone feels differently, reacts differently and thank god for that. we may all experience the same thing but we will all take something different from that experience, so while i am trying to widen that narrow mind of yours i have another suggestion for you. get yourself to the opticians as your short sightedness is certainly very disabling it's fair to say!
what can i say??? plenty...but will refrain...ish!
oooh get you lou...a successful airline pilot eh?! what do you want? a pat on the back? who says you're successful..you? well, if that is the case i would say i personally would be sh*****g myself if i was on your plane as you seem to think that you are right in your "opinions" and my god you are sooo wrong, so if you think you are a successful pilot then get out quick is all i would say to your passengers! you are clearly wrong on your interpretations of what you see, so it's fair to say successful is not a word that i would apply to you. i do have plenty
.i do not want to stoop to your level. what on earth has your civvie street job got to do with your right to be so dis respectful to those who serve and those who grieve? i am a nurse in a neuro itu, but that makes me no better than the person who empties my bins, i do not allow that to be the reason why i am right in my opinions. that does not dis regard others opinions. i do not look at others who serve in the same environment that i do and decide that i have experienced the same as them and their reactions are wrong.
an interesting concept you may wish to consider. everyone is an individual. everyone feels differently, reacts differently and thank god for that. we may all experience the same thing but we will all take something different from that experience, so while i am trying to widen that narrow mind of yours i have another suggestion for you. get yourself to the opticians as your short sightedness is certainly very disabling it's fair to say!
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another thing, not that you'd give a sh**, on wenesday it will be the anniversary of my brothers death. he was killed when the herc was brought down in iraq . i had to find out from the news, stop my daughters birthday celebrations, call my mum and dad and tell them and then wait for the knock on the door after watching the new for 10 hours while trying to glean something that would tell me it wasn't him. i had to ring the station to try and get info i had to stand in the room that he would have stood in as his last moments in this country as i waited for the plane that would hold his body came into land. i have had to carry myself through this terrible time in my life with as much dignity as i can muster though all i want to do is cry. i have looked at the faces of those who served that day at the repatriation ceremony, the people who lined the streets as we left, the faces at the funeral, the memorial services. they have felt it to, they have a right to their feelings, are they wrong in their feelings? not that you are clearly able to feel that is very apparent. but for god's sake man have some respect. all because you might react or feel differently does not mean that we are wrong to act and feel the way that we do. am i wrong in how i grieve? go on answer that? then you can come to my house spend a day in my shoes and see what i go through and what i am dreading. i want to be able to think of that day as my daughters birthday not the day that i lost my brother. i guess i am not being dignified now, and no doubt you'll interpret this as me jumping up and down going ooh look at me, but i am not, i am simply trying to get you to reconsider the effect of your acidic comments.
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I hope nik nak remembers his commnets if he ever finds his way of life, freedom or rights threatened cos to many people decided to leave the forces cos of coments like that from muppets.
Brilliant 2nd episode.
2 rpg's turned into 5, then by the time he met up with the rest of the COY, it was 7! Love to go fishing with him. Otherwise, a good piece of journalism.
2 rpg's turned into 5, then by the time he met up with the rest of the COY, it was 7! Love to go fishing with him. Otherwise, a good piece of journalism.
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sadly i have got Virgin and cannot get Sky, however i have the Skyman coming tomorrow to rectify the situation. i am just waiting for one of those bona blokes to upload it to youtube, and next week i am in business.
Respect
I was going to post something sooner, but feared this was the wrong thread (what with the ridiculous comments seen earlier). I also didn't want to start my own thread this time for fear of being called a sycophant!
I just want to go on record right here and now by saying that our troops are frickin' awesome. Say what you like about the government that sent them there in the first place, but I know who I'd want looking out for me when the sh1t hit the fan! What an amazing bunch of guys. Ross Kemp didn't do too badly either. For a civvie!
While we're on the subject, I must also tip my hat to the helo and multi guys involved in such matters. Despite what you may glean from the banter on this site, I can assure you that us fast jet jockeys (this one at least) are only too aware of the dangers you face on a daily basis and I have to say that I'm impressed with the way you handle yourselves.
So, in summary, a big pat on the back to all involved. Not least to Mr Kemp for bringing the conflict into the public domain with some of the best 'action' footage available outside of youtube!
Let's hope this thread doesn't start back down the slippery slope again!
BV
I just want to go on record right here and now by saying that our troops are frickin' awesome. Say what you like about the government that sent them there in the first place, but I know who I'd want looking out for me when the sh1t hit the fan! What an amazing bunch of guys. Ross Kemp didn't do too badly either. For a civvie!
While we're on the subject, I must also tip my hat to the helo and multi guys involved in such matters. Despite what you may glean from the banter on this site, I can assure you that us fast jet jockeys (this one at least) are only too aware of the dangers you face on a daily basis and I have to say that I'm impressed with the way you handle yourselves.
So, in summary, a big pat on the back to all involved. Not least to Mr Kemp for bringing the conflict into the public domain with some of the best 'action' footage available outside of youtube!
Let's hope this thread doesn't start back down the slippery slope again!
BV
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For all those of you posting on 'Ross Kemp in Afghanistan', how very dare you for creeping this thread back to its title. Its much more interesting reading the ego trip ping pong going on above! 