Typhoon safely tucked up at night?
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Typhoon safely tucked up at night?
Austria decided against a night fighting capability for Typhhon. Insightful, calculated risk, or heads in the sand?
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/...and.3667458.jp
http://news.scotsman.com/latestnews/...and.3667458.jp
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I thought this was interesting;
Pukah gen or has someone confused $ for £ signs or/and misplaced a decimal point?
Austrian defence chiefs decided before ordering the aircraft costing £277m apiece that the potential military threat to the country was unlikely to come from the air.
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Hmm
Interesting, I can see wh they did it though. It's worth a look checking out the stories below that, a ninja bandit thief, a prostitute wife and a santa claus accused of molestation! Classic
I thought this was interesting;
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Austrian defence chiefs decided before ordering the aircraft costing £277m apiece that the potential military threat to the country was unlikely to come from the air.
Pukah gen or has someone confused $ for £ signs or/and misplaced a decimal point?
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Austrian defence chiefs decided before ordering the aircraft costing £277m apiece that the potential military threat to the country was unlikely to come from the air.
Pukah gen or has someone confused $ for £ signs or/and misplaced a decimal point?
The Euro isn't that weak, nor is the $; even with a decimal place the figure's wrong.
And all the Austrians appear to have done - although it's hard to tell given the accuracy of the rest of the story - is to have decided not to buy PIRATE. Now forgive me for being awkward, but I thought this thing known as 'radar' was handy for night interception...
Typhoon unit cost is £45 m for Tranche 1, £42.2 m for Tranche 2, and the Austrians paid €62 m each for theirs.
The £68 m figure is an internal MoD accounting figure that means absolutely nothing in the real world. It is neither a unit production cost, nor a full unit programme cost, but does include programme related costs - including some costs for aircraft not yet built.
The £68 m figure is an internal MoD accounting figure that means absolutely nothing in the real world. It is neither a unit production cost, nor a full unit programme cost, but does include programme related costs - including some costs for aircraft not yet built.
At least this one isn't (so far) splashed all across the media nationwide. As when the disclosure that some B-2 maintenance couldn't be done outside a climate-controlled hangar led to a STEALTH BOMBER CAN'T FLY IN RAIN myth that still hasn't quite been nailed into its coffin.
Someone should tell the writer that it's OK as long as the pilot is nicknamed "Cat's-Eyes" and eats lots of carrots. The Luftwaffe swallowed that classic piece of disinformation whole and the poor buggers on the Nachtjagdgechwadern had to eat a kilo of carrots a day... they're probably still ing orange...
Someone should tell the writer that it's OK as long as the pilot is nicknamed "Cat's-Eyes" and eats lots of carrots. The Luftwaffe swallowed that classic piece of disinformation whole and the poor buggers on the Nachtjagdgechwadern had to eat a kilo of carrots a day... they're probably still ing orange...
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Is it any wonder the clue difficient reporters name is an anagram of:
"Ye Rancid Ink"
Be fun to listen to his defence in court, when up for speeding at night...
"Your Honour I put it to you that theses devilish radar guns cannot possible work in the dark"
"Ye Rancid Ink"
Be fun to listen to his defence in court, when up for speeding at night...
"Your Honour I put it to you that theses devilish radar guns cannot possible work in the dark"
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Typhoon unit cost is £45 m for Tranche 1, £42.2 m for Tranche 2, and the Austrians paid €62 m each for theirs.
The £68 m figure is an internal MoD accounting figure that means absolutely nothing in the real world. It is neither a unit production cost, nor a full unit programme cost, but does include programme related costs - including some costs for aircraft not yet built.
The £68 m figure is an internal MoD accounting figure that means absolutely nothing in the real world. It is neither a unit production cost, nor a full unit programme cost, but does include programme related costs - including some costs for aircraft not yet built.
No it isn't. Programme cost, including R&D and subordinate contracts divided by the three tranche buy equals somewhere around £81 m (£19 Bn divided by 232).
£68 m was the last figure in the latest NAO report - before that it was given as £42 m and £45 m, as I stated - and I have copious FOI replies showing that it's not a unit flyaway cost, nor a unit production cost.
And the close comparison between the RAF prices originally given (£42-45 m) and the Austrian price (€62 m) are not coincidental - NB the heads of agreement dictate that no export customer will get the aircraft for less than the partner nations pay.
£68 m was the last figure in the latest NAO report - before that it was given as £42 m and £45 m, as I stated - and I have copious FOI replies showing that it's not a unit flyaway cost, nor a unit production cost.
And the close comparison between the RAF prices originally given (£42-45 m) and the Austrian price (€62 m) are not coincidental - NB the heads of agreement dictate that no export customer will get the aircraft for less than the partner nations pay.
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Similar light on the RNoAF F-16s. Works great apparently.
(That said, the QRA now carry the Sniper pod, great to show vids showing Bears on national TV using tapes from the air-air mode........ )
(That said, the QRA now carry the Sniper pod, great to show vids showing Bears on national TV using tapes from the air-air mode........ )