Disband the Royal Air Force?
As an aside, I am not in the RAF, I am in the Joint Helicopter Command! (although the RAF retain full command of the people via 1 Gp....)
Otherwise, all those wearing light blue in PJHQ are not in the RAF (and those in dark blue not in the RN, and in the brown (sometimes questionable "uniform" not in the Army). Also, what about those at MoD? Or those in JFACHQ? Or AWC?
If you hold the rank from the RAF then you're in the RAF...ditto pongos or fish-heads. Unless, of course you're on exchange when things start to blur a little (but your cap-badge is where you belong).
Sorry mate, but, what a load of "Tosh" about JHC and who you belong to...
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Of course I realise I am in the RAF, I wear the badge with pride. My point is that I increasingly feel like those of us in JHC are in a very different RAF from the rest! That is how I feel and it is my opinion.
Seriously mate.......
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Of course I realise I am in the RAF, I wear the badge with pride. My point is that I increasingly feel like those of us in JHC are in a very different RAF from the rest! That is how I feel and it is my opinion.
Seriously mate.......
MGD/WM
I believe that the RAF is different for all of us since 1999-2000...
If you're a Wokka mate then change Balkans for Middle-East and go to JHC...
If you're a mudmover then substitute daily drops of ordinance over Iraq to "shows of force" in Afg and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're an AD mate then substitute stooging about in a No Fly Zone to intercepting Bears and Blackjacks and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're an AWACS mate then substitute Balkans for a little bit of Afghanistan/UK QRA and a lot of trg and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're a photo recce mate then you're now in a box in Nevada flying missions over Afg as a UOR...
If you're a Kipper mate then stop flying for a while!
If you're a Truckie mate then fly to Afg and back, do not go West (unless you're one of the lucky ones) and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're a T@nker-w@nker then start to do lots of trash-hauling, forget about AAR and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you were in 3Gp then go to 1Gp, 2Gp or JHC...
If you were in PTC then go to 22Gp and get less and less contact with the military as contractors take over...
You should both think yourseves lucky to be in a "growth industry" for now... especially with the predicted nightmare SDSR around the corner. Just imagine how different it would be if we were doing the "Cold War" type scenario just now? I rather suspect that you would not be in the afore mentioned "growth industry" that you find yourself in.
...for what it's worth I do think that you (Wokka mates) were ditched and then further let down in the 3Gp transition. But, I do think you may have some rather old, and maybe fond, memories of an Air Force than no longer exists.
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I believe that the RAF is different for all of us since 1999-2000...
If you're a Wokka mate then change Balkans for Middle-East and go to JHC...
If you're a mudmover then substitute daily drops of ordinance over Iraq to "shows of force" in Afg and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're an AD mate then substitute stooging about in a No Fly Zone to intercepting Bears and Blackjacks and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're an AWACS mate then substitute Balkans for a little bit of Afghanistan/UK QRA and a lot of trg and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're a photo recce mate then you're now in a box in Nevada flying missions over Afg as a UOR...
If you're a Kipper mate then stop flying for a while!
If you're a Truckie mate then fly to Afg and back, do not go West (unless you're one of the lucky ones) and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you're a T@nker-w@nker then start to do lots of trash-hauling, forget about AAR and halve your Sqn numberplates...
If you were in 3Gp then go to 1Gp, 2Gp or JHC...
If you were in PTC then go to 22Gp and get less and less contact with the military as contractors take over...
You should both think yourseves lucky to be in a "growth industry" for now... especially with the predicted nightmare SDSR around the corner. Just imagine how different it would be if we were doing the "Cold War" type scenario just now? I rather suspect that you would not be in the afore mentioned "growth industry" that you find yourself in.
...for what it's worth I do think that you (Wokka mates) were ditched and then further let down in the 3Gp transition. But, I do think you may have some rather old, and maybe fond, memories of an Air Force than no longer exists.
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Lets face it guys, it wont be long until the RAF is subsumed within the green and dark blues.
Wokka crews. As an aside, having worked closely with you over the past 3 1/2 years I think you are an a professional, hard working and honest bunch of guys. Keep up the good work.
Random I know, however, very true. MGD, keep your chin up fella.
Wokka crews. As an aside, having worked closely with you over the past 3 1/2 years I think you are an a professional, hard working and honest bunch of guys. Keep up the good work.
Random I know, however, very true. MGD, keep your chin up fella.
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Royal Marines?
In The Spectator, issue of 21 May 2010, page 38 they have a blurb for what they call Spectator events (debates). At Church house , London SW1 on 19 October 2010 the discussion listed is:
"The army, navy and air force are so 20th century. Scrap them and have a massive British marine corps"
Perhaps it is a good idea. The Royal Marines are the finest fighting men in the world. They do operate at sea, on land and in the air already. Perhaps a brush up on submarine operations, and it would be all systems go!
See you there?
"The army, navy and air force are so 20th century. Scrap them and have a massive British marine corps"
Perhaps it is a good idea. The Royal Marines are the finest fighting men in the world. They do operate at sea, on land and in the air already. Perhaps a brush up on submarine operations, and it would be all systems go!
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Having seen the way the US Marines do business in several different parts of the world, onshore and afloat, I might be inclined to agree!
They are a very professional, well motivated, self contained force who travel with everything they need to warfight, and every single Marine is a Rifleman first (although I suppose that contrdicts my views on professional aviators!) having all conducted basic trg together (even the h'officahs!)
An easy answer to the Tri-service argument of which service takes priority!
......I guess the brainwashing worked on me then.........
They are a very professional, well motivated, self contained force who travel with everything they need to warfight, and every single Marine is a Rifleman first (although I suppose that contrdicts my views on professional aviators!) having all conducted basic trg together (even the h'officahs!)
An easy answer to the Tri-service argument of which service takes priority!
......I guess the brainwashing worked on me then.........