Best & Worst Mil Aviation Film and Why
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Trigger or Nigger
I'm bound to say that Peter Jackson's only comment so far on the name of the dog is neither of the above! What he has said is that he will be damned if he does [use Nigger] and damned if he doesn't.
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From the Earth to the Moon
For engineers the episode Spider which deals at some length with the development by Gruman of the Lunar lander, is excellent stuff and as far as I can tell devoid of Hollywood interferance to add spurious drama.
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Best: The Right Stuff (1983) Chuck Yeager scenes are coooool, by Hollywood standards at any rate. Good book, too.
Worst: Firefox (1982)
Clint Eastwood dragged out of pilot retirement to steal a Soviet super-stealth-jet-thingy, with THE worst special effects you ever want to see.
Dismal.
...and agreed, Miss York in The Battle of Britain has the finest aviation-related bottom ever filmed. Three cheers!
Best: The Right Stuff (1983) Chuck Yeager scenes are coooool, by Hollywood standards at any rate. Good book, too.
Worst: Firefox (1982)
Clint Eastwood dragged out of pilot retirement to steal a Soviet super-stealth-jet-thingy, with THE worst special effects you ever want to see.
Dismal.
...and agreed, Miss York in The Battle of Britain has the finest aviation-related bottom ever filmed. Three cheers!
Musing on Trigger or Nigger
If another wide-ranging docu drama series on slavery (such as 'Roots') were to be made, would it be anything other than a sham if the word were excluded for PC reasons? The reason FOR using it would be historical truth and accuracy wouldn't it?
So if the dog REALLY WERE called 'Nigger' (used for decades as an adjective as well as a noun), how is history served if it's dropped?
CG
Is it still in the OED, by the way? (not able to check)
So if the dog REALLY WERE called 'Nigger' (used for decades as an adjective as well as a noun), how is history served if it's dropped?
CG
Is it still in the OED, by the way? (not able to check)
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Re comic with ww3 theme, 2000 AD o' course.
Don't remember the Tornado cap or whatever, but the serial was about the truck driver more than anything. ''Invasion'', the truck driver leading the resistance against the ''Volgans''
, with his trusty shotgun was ''Bill Savage''.
Top stuff. See we wouldn't have needed the boys in blue after all
Don't remember the Tornado cap or whatever, but the serial was about the truck driver more than anything. ''Invasion'', the truck driver leading the resistance against the ''Volgans''
, with his trusty shotgun was ''Bill Savage''. Top stuff. See we wouldn't have needed the boys in blue after all
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the TP pushes the stick forward to pitch up and avoids the aircraft breaking up. Caused much merriment in flying circles at the time.
Google "aileron inversion" for more info.
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Best: BoB (just watching the 'advisors' to the production in the credits is a who's who...)
Medium: Hanover Street (Lesley-Ann Down...OMG
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Medium bad: if you like your aviating whirring around and around... Blue Thunder
Worst: Iron Turkey (any of them),
Midway
Medium: Hanover Street (Lesley-Ann Down...OMG
) Medium bad: if you like your aviating whirring around and around... Blue Thunder
Worst: Iron Turkey (any of them),
Midway
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Best &Worst Mil Aviation Films and Why
Not the best or worst but I remember seeing a movie called 'Sabre Jet' back in the mid-1950s. I grew up near Liverpool Airport and after looking through the hangar doors, probably circa 1953-1954, and seeing a large number of F-86s under maintenance as well as watching them above - we lived not far from the USAF base at Burtonwood - I thought it was the most beautiful thing in the sky. It certainly looked more exciting than the usual Meteors and Vampires . I think Alan Ladd and June Allyson played the leads in the movie and I remember air combat scenes from the Korean War being depicted. I have not heard of the movie since and nobody has mentioned it in this thread. Does anyone have information on it?
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Best: By virtue of a few minutes with helicopters in the background - Apocalypse Now
Worst: PH by a mile, not even saved by the luscious Kate I am afraid. Could have forgiven the godawful portrail of the attack itself, but the last hour spent trying to show it was not all a complete coup for the Japanese was unforgiveable.
Worst: PH by a mile, not even saved by the luscious Kate I am afraid. Could have forgiven the godawful portrail of the attack itself, but the last hour spent trying to show it was not all a complete coup for the Japanese was unforgiveable.
[quoue]Worst: PH by a mile, not even saved by the luscious Kate I am afraid. Could have forgiven the godawful portrail of the attack itself, but the last hour spent trying to show it was not all a complete coup for the Japanese was unforgiveable.[/quote]
PH is a film I've avoided, but my JOCC syndicate did use a clip from it in a presentation on the Doolittle Raid...
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Worst: PH by a mile, not even saved by the luscious Kate I am afraid. Could have forgiven the godawful portrail of the attack itself, but the last hour spent trying to show it was not all a complete coup for the Japanese was unforgiveable.
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Just seen a new one that looks to be competing in the worst category - Flyboys. An attempt to show the US involvement in the Escadrille Lafayette in WW1.
Seemed to me that a bunch of PC gamers had directed the film................
Seemed to me that a bunch of PC gamers had directed the film................
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The funniest part of Firefox was how the missile defense system read the pilots brain patterns through the helmet, but he had to think in Russian. By the time he remembered the Russian word for "flares" he could have reached and punched them off 15 times
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Another long forgotten excellent movie was based on Joe Kittinger and John Paul Stapp's literally death defying experiments in the 1950's called
"On the Threshold of Space".
"On the Threshold of Space".
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On the small screen, the hilarious 'Squadron' - I tuned in, only to see a Chief Tech fixing a storno in a car....
I seem to recall some QRF being deployed somewhere in africanistan and the fantastic line delivered from the force leader to a Phantom crew. "Kill that Jaguar" - I think he also used a storno. Impressive integrated comms....
Mind you that was bit more beleiveable as there was some 'previous' in that department. (F4 Vs Jag)
I seem to recall some QRF being deployed somewhere in africanistan and the fantastic line delivered from the force leader to a Phantom crew. "Kill that Jaguar" - I think he also used a storno. Impressive integrated comms....
Mind you that was bit more beleiveable as there was some 'previous' in that department. (F4 Vs Jag)
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Best: Battle of Britain. Worst: Top Gun
Does any remember a b/w film about a community complaining about the RAF flying near a bird-sanctuary? Seem to recall a bird strike on a Vampire
Does any remember a b/w film about a community complaining about the RAF flying near a bird-sanctuary? Seem to recall a bird strike on a Vampire