7th January. Western Approaches. Shall we see a Nimrod?
How many old queens in the picture....??
More seriously, a photo-op of all the Cunard Queens together would be a most memorable event.
Enjoy your cruise, Navaleye!
Enjoy your cruise, Navaleye!
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" The only time 3 queens have been seen in New York "
- are you sure about that ?!
Enjoy your trip, sincerely; though I do sympathise with the idea that Cunard could contribute to the poppy fund...
- are you sure about that ?!
Enjoy your trip, sincerely; though I do sympathise with the idea that Cunard could contribute to the poppy fund...
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Biggus - I assume your post dated 25th Nov was in jest?
2 SAR cabs are used for mutual support, not for a 'photo opportunity' - used when on especially arduous or distant SAROPs.
Obviously if all is going well and nothing is untoward, then the second cab can video the rescue as a secondary role.
2 SAR cabs are used for mutual support, not for a 'photo opportunity' - used when on especially arduous or distant SAROPs.
Obviously if all is going well and nothing is untoward, then the second cab can video the rescue as a secondary role.
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Enjoy your trip, sincerely; though I do sympathise with the idea that Cunard could contribute to the poppy fund...
. DZ, your idea is a good one. I would write to Carol. Marlow, CEO of Cunard and suggest just that, with photo attached!
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Don't know what time they sail, but if you are a sad spotter (yes I admit I am) and register, you can track them down the Channel when they sail:
http://aisfree.aislive.com/Influx.as...%20Southampton
Unfortunately no Nimrods due down that way tomorrow, unless we get a SAR shout!
http://aisfree.aislive.com/Influx.as...%20Southampton
Unfortunately no Nimrods due down that way tomorrow, unless we get a SAR shout!
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Zedder,
We sailed at 6pm, sailing at 18kts due west, should be past Bishops Rock at 4am, then into the Western Approaches after. Much slower than normal. The Queen Victoria swims slower then my dog. Still fun though and a great departure, very memorable. I now have five days of maritime history lectures ahead of me, even with a hangover.
The Chartroom bar on the QE2 has a huge backlit chart of the north atlantic. It has two shipwrecks marked on it. One is the Titanic (as you would expect), the other is the Bismarck. I always point it out to our teutonic friends, but they never seem to smile.
Thanks for the thought.
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We sailed at 6pm, sailing at 18kts due west, should be past Bishops Rock at 4am, then into the Western Approaches after. Much slower than normal. The Queen Victoria swims slower then my dog. Still fun though and a great departure, very memorable. I now have five days of maritime history lectures ahead of me, even with a hangover.
The Chartroom bar on the QE2 has a huge backlit chart of the north atlantic. It has two shipwrecks marked on it. One is the Titanic (as you would expect), the other is the Bismarck. I always point it out to our teutonic friends, but they never seem to smile.
Thanks for the thought.
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The Queens
This evening at 22:46 I had the privilage of speaking to both Queen Victoria & Queen E2, to wish them both safe passage, as the sailed (steamed) passed Portland Bill at 20kts heading SW and onwards in to the Atlantic, destination New York. Can still see them on AIS clearing the SW bound lanes, bit rough out there though.
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Sapper the work your organisation does is very much appreciated. It was indeed fabulously choppy so I thought I'd share these with y'all. They weren't taken at the same time.
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One is a true North Atlantic liner that could easily go 10 kts faster. The other thing was taking goffers at 18kts and had to slow down.
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One is a true North Atlantic liner that could easily go 10 kts faster. The other thing was taking goffers at 18kts and had to slow down.
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When I were a lad, practically everyone ay my prep school could draw a picture of the QE or QM.... Usually the same except for the Mary's extra funnel. The era of the great Atlantic liners was just ending back then - but I remember being taken to Southampton for a tour of the Mary and seeing the Queen Elizabeth nearby.
We also devoured every scrap of information during the construction of the 'Canberra' and (original) 'Oriana'. Both sadly scrapped now.
But that's the first time I've ever seen a picture of the Queen Victoria. God, but it's ugly! Presumably it must attract some tourist interest though?
Looking at that sea, I'm rather glad that the Comet 4 and Boeing 707 heralded the era of rather quicker and more comfortable trans-Atlantic travel though.
We also devoured every scrap of information during the construction of the 'Canberra' and (original) 'Oriana'. Both sadly scrapped now.
But that's the first time I've ever seen a picture of the Queen Victoria. God, but it's ugly! Presumably it must attract some tourist interest though?
Looking at that sea, I'm rather glad that the Comet 4 and Boeing 707 heralded the era of rather quicker and more comfortable trans-Atlantic travel though.
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BEagle,
That was nothing compared to how it was the year before
I agree the QV is ugly, but less so in the flesh.
We put into Kure in 93, so I went to see and film the original Oriana in Japan after she was used as a "tourist attraction". Appalling. This is why I'm so passionate that the QE2 does not share the same miserable fate. Better the torch.
That was nothing compared to how it was the year before
I agree the QV is ugly, but less so in the flesh. We put into Kure in 93, so I went to see and film the original Oriana in Japan after she was used as a "tourist attraction". Appalling. This is why I'm so passionate that the QE2 does not share the same miserable fate. Better the torch.
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Navaleye. Is QV's forecastle significantly shorter than QE2's? Having the forward glasswork that close to the goffers doesn't look very comfortable for the easily alamed.
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As an ex P&O Engineer I would like to see any photos you may have of the "Oriana" from that era. Her fate after the period you mention was very sad.
Always also brings a tear to my eye to see pictures of the "Bogey" on Gadani beach.
When P&O said she was going to be scrapped it was upsetting, especially as they had offers to buy her. They stuck by their tradition of never having a ship that was ordered for P&O sail under another flag and must admit in hindsight that was probably the correct decision.
Mind you not sure if Cunard (Carnival) have much of a choice concerning the "Black Pig", can't see anyone wanting to run that.....
Your story of Q.V. not having same characteristics as a proper ship reminds me of the maiden voyage of the Royal Princess. I was on the Canberra at the time and we left Southampton the day after heading for Fort Lauderdale. Force 12 and the RP turned around and legged it, we slowed down to 12 knots until we picked up an SOS from a French yacht, increase speed to 18 knots to go and look for it (unsuccessfully as it happens).
Not many ships could do 18 knots in a Force 12, didn't see a punter for 2 days and made for rather an interesting watch in the kettle shed; water out of top of sight glass, brown trouser moment, oops water back in sight glass, and now out the bottom, brown trouser moment...try that for 4 hours, dribbling wreck by the end of it.... Arrived in Florida 2 days before the new "flagship".
I apologise for the thread drift.
If anyone interested
www.sscanberra.com
www.seadogs-reunited.com (bit in-house but lots of piccies)
Apologies again if I'm not supposed to post links
I have looked unsuccessfully for photos of the three Queens in New York, any links would be appreciated
Always also brings a tear to my eye to see pictures of the "Bogey" on Gadani beach.
When P&O said she was going to be scrapped it was upsetting, especially as they had offers to buy her. They stuck by their tradition of never having a ship that was ordered for P&O sail under another flag and must admit in hindsight that was probably the correct decision.
Mind you not sure if Cunard (Carnival) have much of a choice concerning the "Black Pig", can't see anyone wanting to run that.....
Your story of Q.V. not having same characteristics as a proper ship reminds me of the maiden voyage of the Royal Princess. I was on the Canberra at the time and we left Southampton the day after heading for Fort Lauderdale. Force 12 and the RP turned around and legged it, we slowed down to 12 knots until we picked up an SOS from a French yacht, increase speed to 18 knots to go and look for it (unsuccessfully as it happens).
Not many ships could do 18 knots in a Force 12, didn't see a punter for 2 days and made for rather an interesting watch in the kettle shed; water out of top of sight glass, brown trouser moment, oops water back in sight glass, and now out the bottom, brown trouser moment...try that for 4 hours, dribbling wreck by the end of it.... Arrived in Florida 2 days before the new "flagship".
I apologise for the thread drift.
If anyone interested
www.sscanberra.com
www.seadogs-reunited.com (bit in-house but lots of piccies)
Apologies again if I'm not supposed to post links
I have looked unsuccessfully for photos of the three Queens in New York, any links would be appreciated
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The answer is its a LOT shorter. The QE2's is that long for good reason. For the QV design they did actually lengthen it by 11ft over her sisters, but its still far too short for that kind of sea. Which is why we were so comfortable and that lot weren't. Long fo'c'sle's don't make much money, so the one on the QE2 is the last one you are ever likely to see. Another icon goes.
francophile69: Some old Oriana pics below. This is why I rather see QE2 scrapped. these were taken in 93 and just look at the state of her.
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francophile69: Some old Oriana pics below. This is why I rather see QE2 scrapped. these were taken in 93 and just look at the state of her.
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