Manning 'Policy'
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Is it me being stupid or is the RAFs suicidal manning through redundancy policy of the last couple of year finally coming home to roost? It seems the upper echelons have come to realise that the RAF is now not just stretched, but overstretched and is unable to meet its planned commitments. Those of you serving will probably think that has been the case for a long time. It does seem to indicate incompetence amongst the star classes when the actions below seen on a certain website have to be implemented to make up for the wholesale shedding of talent on the ground in the last two years
‘As part of a constant review of manpower requirements for the Service, Manning, in conjunction with the Manpower Forecasters, have identified a requirement to retain a limited number of personnel in a number of trades (rank specific), shown below, beyond their normal date of exit. Applications will be considered on a Service Need basis and will take into account the individuals’ specific experience and expertise.’
‘The high operational tempo, which requires some Forces to exceed their agreed Annual Flying Task and others to exceed Harmony guidelines, allied to the reduction in trained strength ahead of the disestablishment of associated posts has created a demand for TG1 manpower in excess of availability. To meet the manpower demands, the RAF TG1 Manpower Placement Plan has been developed to prioritise the allocation of TG1 manpower’
I do find the following throwaway line particularly disturbing: ‘As the RAF establishment is drawn down to its target manning levels at 1 Apr 08, units may experience some gapping at NCO level.’
To paraphrase an old saying ‘Flight Safety- nowt to do with me – I’m Policy Branch’
‘As part of a constant review of manpower requirements for the Service, Manning, in conjunction with the Manpower Forecasters, have identified a requirement to retain a limited number of personnel in a number of trades (rank specific), shown below, beyond their normal date of exit. Applications will be considered on a Service Need basis and will take into account the individuals’ specific experience and expertise.’
‘The high operational tempo, which requires some Forces to exceed their agreed Annual Flying Task and others to exceed Harmony guidelines, allied to the reduction in trained strength ahead of the disestablishment of associated posts has created a demand for TG1 manpower in excess of availability. To meet the manpower demands, the RAF TG1 Manpower Placement Plan has been developed to prioritise the allocation of TG1 manpower’
I do find the following throwaway line particularly disturbing: ‘As the RAF establishment is drawn down to its target manning levels at 1 Apr 08, units may experience some gapping at NCO level.’
To paraphrase an old saying ‘Flight Safety- nowt to do with me – I’m Policy Branch’
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I believe the powers that be failed to remember an old saying in the rounds of shrinking the RAF and making short term cost savings.....
act in haste, repent at leisure
I do feel for the guys left behind I have taken the option of getting off the train. My terminal stop is due in 2 weeks time
act in haste, repent at leisure
I do feel for the guys left behind I have taken the option of getting off the train. My terminal stop is due in 2 weeks time
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Mostly be done in the future like what is happening in hospitals I reckon. The MoD don't want to pay full time staff with salaries and pensions to aim for so they'll just do it like they hire cleaners and nurses in the NHS.
No doubt some consultant or other has told them what to do so in future it will be
- Lease ac from the cheapest source
- Hire RAFVR aircrew on one-off contracts
- Buy fuel from Tesco
- get ammo as part of some multi-activity contract with Uni-part
- Chuck all the holiday traffic out of which ever airport is the cheapest to operate, and then use their strips.
End of story
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No doubt some consultant or other has told them what to do so in future it will be
- Lease ac from the cheapest source
- Hire RAFVR aircrew on one-off contracts
- Buy fuel from Tesco
- get ammo as part of some multi-activity contract with Uni-part
- Chuck all the holiday traffic out of which ever airport is the cheapest to operate, and then use their strips.
End of story
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The redundancy program was sold on the basis that the front line, aircrew and engineers etc would be bolstered as a result of targetted redundancy. The redundancy program that ensued was surprisingly, heavily weighted towards the engineering trade. How come? Was it all a lie?
The RAF is now suffering untold damage because of a shortage of engineers and aircrew. A situation entirely predictable. The recent redundancy program was not only foolhardy but disingenuous. The responsibilty for which rests squarely with the relevant chiefs of staff. In other words, they only have themselves to blame.
The RAF is now suffering untold damage because of a shortage of engineers and aircrew. A situation entirely predictable. The recent redundancy program was not only foolhardy but disingenuous. The responsibilty for which rests squarely with the relevant chiefs of staff. In other words, they only have themselves to blame.
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I do feel for the guys left behind I have taken the option of getting off the train. My terminal stop is due in 2 weeks time
Sigh.......didn't we tell them at the time?
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Applications will be considered on a Service Need basis and will take into account the individuals’ specific experience and expertise.’
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RatherbeGardening, PMA not at HW yet.
Apparently, desk officers will be getting a private bar in the Mess so personnel can't give them a chest poking over a beer. A consultation is underway to think of an appropriate name for the bar...
Apparently, desk officers will be getting a private bar in the Mess so personnel can't give them a chest poking over a beer. A consultation is underway to think of an appropriate name for the bar...
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Across the 2 redundancy tranches, we lost 6 Chf Tech trade managers from the sqns on my old unit. The only silver lining was that some of them joined the contractor that we now pay to do all the work we can't cope with so we didn't lose quite so much experience.
Didn't help manning Basrah and Kandahar though!
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Didn't help manning Basrah and Kandahar though!
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Ah! But from my old days with TG5, it was proven that the likes of British Waste of Space could make primary structure and machined items quicker and cheaper than any Service or civilian craftsmen.
Depite the fact that said artisans had already been budgeted and paid for, employing a private company to do the same work was much, much better in the eyes of our airships!
Stupid iriots
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Depite the fact that said artisans had already been budgeted and paid for, employing a private company to do the same work was much, much better in the eyes of our airships!
Stupid iriots
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"That was just great Mav..."
The drawdown in the trained strength of the RAF is being achieved through a balanced strategy of normal outflow, reduced recruitment and a targeted redundancy programme. The redundancy programme will entail around 2,750 redundancies, in three Tranches, spread over two years. Tranche 1 is well underway with 507 applicants selected for redundancy who are due to exit in September 2005; only one non-applicant was selected for redundancy in Tranche 1 and is due to leave in March 2006. As expected, most of the redundancies (463—around 90%) in Tranche 1 are in the aircraft engineering trades. This is due mainly to the efficiencies arising from the Defence Logistics Transformation Programme and, in particular, the implementation of plans to realign RAF logistic support structures from the traditional four lines of maintenance to two levels (Forward and Depth).
Applications have already been received for Tranche 2 of the redundancy programme. It is anticipated that Tranche 2 will comprise around 1,200 personnel, and that those selected will be applicants who will leave the Service in April 2006; any non-applicants selected will leave in September 2006. Quotas for Tranche 2 have yet to be finalised but it is anticipated that around 60% (690) of those selected will be from aircraft engineering trades.
The balance of around 1,050 redundancy places will form Tranche 3 of the programme, with most applicants expected to leave in April 2007 and non-applicants in September 2007. Tranche 3 is only in the initial planning stages, although we would expect the aircraft engineering trades to feature again but probably at a lower percentage than in the first two tranches.
This is how it was sold;
The aim of the Defence Logistics Transformation Programme is to provide better logistic support to the Armed Forces, by increasing the effectiveness, efficiency and flexibility of logistics activity and optimising all such activity in support of the tasks likely to be required of the Armed Forces. For the delivery of front-line capability to the RAF, this has led to a reconfiguration of processes for aircraft support in order to meet the needs of an expeditionary air force and the achievement of better value from the resources available.
A key reason for this outcome is that RAF Aircraft support policy is underpinned by a requirement for the RAF to have a sufficient number of tradesmen, capable of deploying to operational theatres to support aircraft—this total is referred to as the RAF Crisis Manpower Requirement (CMR). This ensures that front-line capability and combat effectiveness is maintained on operations and enables the sustainment of air power operations where they are required. Within a smaller RAF, skilled technicians—and, indeed, all RAF personnel—must also maintain a war-fighting edge, as well as performing their day-to-day duties.
Think they got the CMR bit the wrong way round, should read, manpower crisis...
The drawdown in the trained strength of the RAF is being achieved through a balanced strategy of normal outflow, reduced recruitment and a targeted redundancy programme. The redundancy programme will entail around 2,750 redundancies, in three Tranches, spread over two years. Tranche 1 is well underway with 507 applicants selected for redundancy who are due to exit in September 2005; only one non-applicant was selected for redundancy in Tranche 1 and is due to leave in March 2006. As expected, most of the redundancies (463—around 90%) in Tranche 1 are in the aircraft engineering trades. This is due mainly to the efficiencies arising from the Defence Logistics Transformation Programme and, in particular, the implementation of plans to realign RAF logistic support structures from the traditional four lines of maintenance to two levels (Forward and Depth).
Applications have already been received for Tranche 2 of the redundancy programme. It is anticipated that Tranche 2 will comprise around 1,200 personnel, and that those selected will be applicants who will leave the Service in April 2006; any non-applicants selected will leave in September 2006. Quotas for Tranche 2 have yet to be finalised but it is anticipated that around 60% (690) of those selected will be from aircraft engineering trades.
The balance of around 1,050 redundancy places will form Tranche 3 of the programme, with most applicants expected to leave in April 2007 and non-applicants in September 2007. Tranche 3 is only in the initial planning stages, although we would expect the aircraft engineering trades to feature again but probably at a lower percentage than in the first two tranches.
This is how it was sold;
The aim of the Defence Logistics Transformation Programme is to provide better logistic support to the Armed Forces, by increasing the effectiveness, efficiency and flexibility of logistics activity and optimising all such activity in support of the tasks likely to be required of the Armed Forces. For the delivery of front-line capability to the RAF, this has led to a reconfiguration of processes for aircraft support in order to meet the needs of an expeditionary air force and the achievement of better value from the resources available.
A key reason for this outcome is that RAF Aircraft support policy is underpinned by a requirement for the RAF to have a sufficient number of tradesmen, capable of deploying to operational theatres to support aircraft—this total is referred to as the RAF Crisis Manpower Requirement (CMR). This ensures that front-line capability and combat effectiveness is maintained on operations and enables the sustainment of air power operations where they are required. Within a smaller RAF, skilled technicians—and, indeed, all RAF personnel—must also maintain a war-fighting edge, as well as performing their day-to-day duties.
Think they got the CMR bit the wrong way round, should read, manpower crisis...
, if we get rid of them all imagine the ££££ we could save 
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Oh I see!!
We now have a logistics system that is second to none, but no techies to use the parts provide by the logistics system that is second to none.
Eh? What?
Toodle pip!
We now have a logistics system that is second to none, but no techies to use the parts provide by the logistics system that is second to none.
Eh? What?
Toodle pip!
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our logistics system is to put it mildly, F**ked 
..... we have sold all our spares to a contractor, who then has 2 hours to deliver it, if we ever get it at all........who thinks these things up? 
.... madness
..... we have sold all our spares to a contractor, who then has 2 hours to deliver it, if we ever get it at all........who thinks these things up? .... madness
