US "Navy jets in death-defying skim"
Below the Glidepath - not correcting
But the 'Red' was authorised down to 100' and removed 3' of a mast 103' above sea level. Just about right I'd say.
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Karup, Denmark
Age: 70
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Isn't that shockwave a supersonic one?
http://www.airshowbuzz.com/videos/view.php?v=68072713
Don't know the limits for the SF display. Many places it would be Mach .95
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Karup, Denmark
Age: 70
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
...I suspect there'll be a lot of pi$$ed off boat owners having been bounced by that shockwave.
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: A galaxy far far away
Posts: 109
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Karup, Denmark
Age: 70
Posts: 175
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
No. But the discussion was about the Navy Week show in San Fransisco. (Blue Angels no. 5 fast pass). The videos showed that the still photos probably were not "photoshopped". (He was that low). None of the video sound tracks showed supersonic flight. (To me!).
But is it possible to know from a still photo?
But is it possible to know from a still photo?
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: by the Great Salt Lake, USA
Posts: 1,542
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I have seen that type of vapor cloud numerous times... from the deck of CV-61 USS Ranger in 1985-87.
The high humidity of a warm day on the ocean can create those visual effects as slow as ~500 kt at times... I even saw an A-6E Intruder produce one while flying level with 12-500lb bombs on the inboard pylons... no chance in h@!1 of that one being supersonic!
The high humidity of a warm day on the ocean can create those visual effects as slow as ~500 kt at times... I even saw an A-6E Intruder produce one while flying level with 12-500lb bombs on the inboard pylons... no chance in h@!1 of that one being supersonic!
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Leeds
Posts: 702
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
That shockwave effect can occur at sub-sonic speeds. If you ever go to a Blues show, the commentator does a good job of explaining it.
It's a showpiece move and you'll see it in a lot of Blues shows. If the conditions are right, they'll do it.
It's definitely not supersonic. They manage to pull it off at SF most years, although not that low usually! Just google it.
Note the 2 kayakers at the start of the video... haircut, sir?
This is an example of when it doesn't happen:
http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentId=351527
Taken at SeaFair 07 (great show, by the way).
It's a showpiece move and you'll see it in a lot of Blues shows. If the conditions are right, they'll do it.
It's definitely not supersonic. They manage to pull it off at SF most years, although not that low usually! Just google it.
Note the 2 kayakers at the start of the video... haircut, sir?
This is an example of when it doesn't happen:
http://my.break.com/content/view.aspx?ContentId=351527
Taken at SeaFair 07 (great show, by the way).
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Under the clag EGKA
Posts: 1,026
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Rod,
I don't comment as to his height at impact, just his height as he passed me. I was a bit surprised that he ditched. When you consider how much ordnance some kites fly through..............
Thankyou, I stand corrected, although I did have it in mind that the amount of mast clipped proved he was flying not below his cleared display height
Blue Angel fast pass.
I live in the San Francisco area and have watched the Blue Angels display every year that I could, since 1981.
The fast pass is done by one of a pair while the other 4 are off getting ready for their next part of the routine, it is NEVER done coming out of a loop!!.
The Coast Guard maintain a cleared corridor down the Bay just off the SF waterfront, that pic is genuine, not photo-shopped, and taken with a long lens.
One year, not so long ago, the water track was amazing!!
It is a great flying routine, especially if you park yourself on the end of the breakwater near the SF Yacht Club!!
Hi "av8boy" PM me!!
The fast pass is done by one of a pair while the other 4 are off getting ready for their next part of the routine, it is NEVER done coming out of a loop!!.
The Coast Guard maintain a cleared corridor down the Bay just off the SF waterfront, that pic is genuine, not photo-shopped, and taken with a long lens.
One year, not so long ago, the water track was amazing!!
It is a great flying routine, especially if you park yourself on the end of the breakwater near the SF Yacht Club!!
Hi "av8boy" PM me!!
Not to pee on anyone's chips but I watched the BAs spending most of the day before the day before doing recces and the day before rehearsing. They're very very good I'll give you that (even better from Horizons in SAU) but...
when did the Reds ever need that amount of prep?
Besides, much more impressive was watching the Alcatraz Three (minus this one) doing The Swim in 41 minutes and 4' swells...
when did the Reds ever need that amount of prep?
Besides, much more impressive was watching the Alcatraz Three (minus this one) doing The Swim in 41 minutes and 4' swells...
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Away from home Rat
Posts: 1
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Steve Johnsons Hawk totally lost roll control with the section of the wing that was removed and he ejected inverted at the absolute minimum parameters of the Mk 10 seat fitted.
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: wilts
Posts: 1,667
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I was lucky enough to be in San Fran on Thu, Fri, Sat. Watched the final warm-up from Horizons on Fri with glass of Sav Blanc in hand. Absolutely top quality from BA and superior wazzing by the Herc. Enjoyed A380 flying overhead!? Even sweeter when heard San Fran liberals tried to ban it.
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: a radar shadow
Posts: 54
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Slightly older but still SF (I think)
This picture was shown on another site during a discussion regarding the low pass. My understanding is that it's a couple years old - '05 image, maybe? - and Fleet Week at SFO.
http://www.navy.mil/management/photo...-7559C-001.jpg
http://www.navy.mil/management/photo...-7559C-001.jpg